• alvvayson@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    As a father, I just can’t imagine being in that situation.

    Totally powerless to protect your own children :(

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    1 year ago

    That’s how you know you’re on the right side of history

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        1 year ago

        Why do people both sides this issue? We would never both sides the ANC vs. Apartheid, or Algeria vs. the French, or Haiti vs the French, or Native Americans vs Colonists, or Nat Turner vs slaveholders, because even though everyone committed horrific crimes that should never have been commited, one side was clearly worse. Why is this situation different.

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            Yeah, we should absolutely be condemning Israel. It’s literally committing ethnic cleansing as we speak. Both sidesing the issue and pretending that the resistance movement is just as bad as a colonial apartheid state that is currently engaging in genocide is wrong. That would be like saying Nat Turner was just as bad as the slaveholders, or the Algerians were just as bad as the French. That was the point of my original comment.

            Regarding queer and women’s rights, Israel is the reason Palestinians don’t have that. Israel is the reason they have fundamentalist Islamists instead of secular marxists at the front of the movement. Palestinians can only win their fight against religious fundamentalism after they win their fight to break free from their open air prison.

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                Mmn yes resistance movement that holds its civilians as hostage, blocking the borders internally so that no precious civilians that are their only means of negotiation can get away from the situation.

                I don’t think you fully understand how violent most revolutionary movements are. Either way, blocking civilians from moving doesn’t fucking matter bc Israel is bombing everywhere indiscriminately. If they go to the south the get bombed, if they stay in the north they get bombed, if they take refuge in a church or hospital they get bombed, whats the fucking point.

                Yes because any other places that are muslim and not have Israel problem is a nice place to be for queer people or women.

                Again, they could have had secular marxists mostly in charge but Israel supported Hamas as a counterweight to them so here we are. They can figure out that whole issue once they stop being colonized and occupied. The PFLP and DFLP along with other secular orgs might have enough power once Palestine is free, but again, a queer person in Gaza’s main worry right now is probably the bombs, not coming out of the closet.

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                The hostages thing is a racist lie and you can tell because we’re 20ish days in and there hasn’t been a single shred of evidence to back it up.

                Edit: Ahh I fucked up here. I meant to say “human shields” not “hostages”. Very big mistake on my part

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        1 year ago

        Strong recommend you rewind a little further.

        Or ask yourself who’s bombing civilians currently. Actively.

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    1 year ago

    The link is not working anymore, but reading the headline: as a father I would take my kids and get the fuck out of there! I can understand the motivation and fight for whatever rights, lands, religion but knowingly involving kids is unacceptable.