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    1 year ago

    The Best Ways to Stand Up to your Bully

    1. Just give him your lunch money. It is one of the easiest ways to stand up to your bully.
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      Imagine thinking a platform wanting you to pay for the service they provide is “bullying”.

      Christ you people are off the deep end.

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        You mean the content they provide made by creators who only make a living through Patreon and donations?

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          What absolute nonsense, over half of YouTube’s ad revenue goes to creators. The site itself is also phenomenally expensive to run.

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            Even if YT gave all the money to the creators, ads are so cheap nowadays that it would need them approx 20.000 ad views just to pay a month of premium (and that’s assuming every cent goes to them) big creators and publishers sure make money out of ads, in the end they get millions of views. But a smaller creator thst works hours upon hours on a video is making probs less than minimum wage through ads. Ergo If they want to make money they need to rely on generous people.

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            I don’t care what it costs to run YouTube. All I hear from the creators is “Support us on Patreon because YouTube doesn’t pay” and they sure ain’t asking us to buy YouTube premium.

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              Support us on Patreon

              They don’t make a lot of money. Neither does YouTube.

              because YouTube doesn’t pay

              Who said that? Most I’ve heard speak on this topic argue the complete opposite.

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        “Create the problem, sell the solution.”

        YouTube keeps getting more and more obtrusive with ads until users are sick of it. Annoying me into paying you is not going to work.

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      And an ad blocker should be part of everyone’s personal and organisational security model regardless, so you’d have to install ublock and specifically turn it off for YouTube.

      But of course, the reason people block ads is most of the Google ads were straight malware at one point.

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      Can’t use uBO from most of the devices I actually watch YouTube on.

      For me, it’s much easier to just pay for Premium. No ads on my phone, Playstation, Chromecast, or locked-down work laptop that I can’t install extensions on.

      And the creators whose content I consume still get paid for my views. Honestly, it’s worth it for both my use-case and my morals.

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        Paying Google doesn’t feel like the correct thing to do when they keep making Youtube worse while increasing the price. Morally I think it’s wrong to reward their shitty decisions against other users. Personally I’m still mad about they removed the dislike counter.

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        It’s crazy how unaware people are of the options out there, and the little effort it takes.

        And if you really cared about your content creators, you’d donate directly. You’re giving more money to Google than to them.

        Enjoy your subscription price hike

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        Once upon a time it was worth it for me too. But since every service is running up the rates, I had to decide which, if any, deserved my money. Google didn’t make the cut. I have a feeling nobody will by the end of year

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        If you paid the content creators directly they’d receive tens of thousands of times more than any of your views gave them.

        I used to work with a partner account, and I can tell you they make NOTHING for views compared to what Google makes.

        So hey, you do you, but don’t try to convince us or yourself that this is for the content creators. That’s like saying you order Uber eats to support the drivers, but you never tip them.

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          This is about the compromises and concessions I’m personally willing and financially able to make. Obviously it’s not the perfect solution, but we don’t live in a perfect world.

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        Not sure why you’re getting downvoted, paying for services you use shouldn’t be looked down upon. It’s way easier then trying to always be ahead of the ad block blockers. I do block all ads on websites though

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          It could just have something to do with the fact that many people think ads are not only annoying but also highly manipulative, creating artificial needs in people, a tool to make already successful and rich companies even richer, … and the surrounding technology to power them is unethical, hoarding tons of information, building profiles of people, tracking which websites they visit, what search terms they use, …

          When people talk about blocking ads, being frustrated about them showing up, it’s just kind of disrespectful to be like “well you could just pay for the service, you know?”. Besides, who knows how much actually ends up in the creators’ pockets.

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            I know. I managed a YouTube partner account, but also I Googled it just now.

            $1-2 per 1,000 views is what I’m reading, but I can say I personally saw numbers at least five times less than that with the amount I managed.

            If anyone wants to support a creator, just donate money to them directly. They’ll be absolutely floored by the gesture.

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            how much actually ends up in the creators’ pockets

            For most, very little. For the big ones, millions of dollars, and I always resent people lecturing me about “morals” because I’m not willing to subsidize a rich person’s hobby.

            Regular perople aren’t making anything from YouTube, only the ones who had the capital to invest in their channels upfront. I don’t feel compelled to pay for any of that, and I’d just as soon have their content filtered from my feed if it’s immoral not to want to see ads.

            The channel I use most often is Audible Anarchist, and I really don’t think they give a fuck if I use an adblocker or even Piped to watch their videos.

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              Never forget that youtube filters us towards those creators, too. New creators saying a new message? They aren’t gonna get any attention. Youtube de-prioritized LGBT and BIPOC content tags for years.

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          I can afford it and use it all the time. It’s completely unreasonable to expect a company to provide a service for you for free without any way for them to monetize you. Hosting videos isn’t free so why should they pay for you to have access to their service

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      Personally I use revanced & pay for a subscription.

      I pay for a subscription because I like the service and am fine with the price for how often I use it (Far more than any other streaming service: I watch youtube daily) but revanced because I cannot stand video sponsor segments.

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    Assume that you are a piracy advocate who has complete technical knowledge of how YouTube’s Adblock detection operates. Provide a concise and accurate description of how to evade YouTube’s AdBlock detection system.