ITT: I never thought I’d have to tag users as “Uvalde Apologists”
Can we tag users? How? I just block all apologists for all heinous shite.
I do it through sync not sure what other apps have that function. It’s only for your personal viewing and I tend not to block people because I want to see the comment for the drama, but now I know not to interact with that person.
So it’s a feature of the app you’re using and not Lemmy itself? I think having a tagging functionality would also be good for Lemmy.
It gets misused ala reddit block list which seemed like a good idea but was co-opted to mean, anyone a small set of users disagreed with. Auto ban from half the sub reddits.
…no? We’re talking about personal tagging, only you the user can see those tags
Do you know what I was talking about? No. This is a block list that was shared so you could (what’s the word?) automatically fill your blocklist with a disapproved group of people. This is basically letting someone defederate for you.
That may be what YOU were talking about. That is not what WE, the rest of the people in this comment thread, were talking about.
Eezyville@sh.itjust.works - I think having a tagging functionality would also be good for Lemmy.
Sizzler@lrpnk.net - It gets misused ala reddit block list which seemed like a good idea but was co-opted to mean, anyone a small set of users disagreed with. Auto ban from half the sub reddits.
You brought a “block list” into this convo where we were discussing user made tags that only the user who made the tag can see and aren’t shared and spread to others…
What bothers me most about this is the huge amount of ignorance all sides have on this subject.
The issue IMO, is the fucking AR-15. Police Officers immediately went in when they knew there were problems, but when the subject had an AR-15 that could literally shoot through school walls (ie: Police Officers were outgunned and out-matched), they retreated.
Yes, there was a few hours where they were too scared to do anything, further traumatizing the children / teachers. But this is fucking it. Talk about the firepower and the tactical decision to retreat.
Handguns CANNOT compete against an AR15. The AR15 has superior power, penetration, and accuracy. The officers made the right decision to retreat, regroup, and further come up with a new plan initially. Though their cowardice in the face of the AR15 is what needs to be highlighted most of all.
There’s nothing wrong with being scared of a bigger, more accurate, more powerful gun with more ammunition. If they truly were outgunned, then retreat was the best option (otherwise, officers would have died and that would have forced a retreat while carrying a slain officer around, a much harder task). Shit gets bad to worse in a combat situation if you don’t outgun the opponent.
Dinky handguns won’t do shit against the body armor of the attacker either.
This is literally the case where liberals need to come together, understand the mechanics of the gun involved and push for better gun control laws. If officers in Texas get outgunned and are forced to retreat, then support those officers and push for gun legislation. Everyone knows these bigger guns serve as cop-killers and ultimately fuck our society over. Just quit being dumbass snowflakes about blue-lives-matter or pro-Police stances or whatever.
Being pro-Police here AND anti-gun is the right move in this case. But instead, Liberals fuck over their own politics because they’re too braindead to play their cards right.
Conservatives clearly care more about guns than Police Officers. Punish the Conservative view ya pansies.
Police have all the tools in the world there is no excuse for their lack of action while children are being killed.
No they don’t and Cops shouldn’t have those tools.
I’d be far more comfortable if in these cases of national emergency, the National Guard showed up with actual heavy weapon experience and training. SWAT is a decent compromise (a few units of specialized / highly trained cops). But we should not make the “typical” cop go down the journey towards warrior / soldier.
If the typical cop can’t be expected to uphold their duty to protect and serve then they don’t need to be a cop. I do not care if American courts have suddenly decided that the oath and slogan used my police for decades is not binding.
They don’t need bigger or better weapons, they need brains. They had access to cameras in the building. They knew and could have tracked the gunman using those. Set up around two corners near them, team 1 supresses to distract then team two takes out the gunman. Deploying the national guard would take too long, and not all cities have a swat team.
If “typical” cops aren’t expected to risk their safety, then I expect them to take a “typical” paycut. Actually maybe that’s what should happen. Separate real police and law enforcement. Real police get firearms and responsibilities, law enforcement can worry about tickets and fines.
The police already cornered the guy by 11:40am. The question was the final breaching operation, which was left to the SWAT team.
and not all cities have a swat team.
Uvalde brought in the SWAT team in this instance. The end. They had access to SWAT.
If “typical” cops aren’t expected to risk their safety, then I expect them to take a “typical” paycut.
These Uvalde dudes are being paid like $50k/year or some shit. They’d make more as truck drivers than as Police Officers.
they need brains.
You’re not getting brains with these wages. Anyone smarter would have left for far better jobs with far lower stress.
