If you’ve been selfhosting conduit or conduwuit, you probabl are aware that the conduwuit project was discontinued a couple months back.

I’ve been holding out on updating my matrix homeserver until it becomes clear which fork(s) will survive long term.

I feel like I can’t put off updating for much longer now, plus the tuwunel nixpkg and -module were merged yesterday, so now the two most promising forks are both options for me.

Still, I’m unsure what route to take. Here’s my thoughts:

  • not going through another round of this in a couple of months from now would be great, so stability and long-term maintenance promises would be great
  • I assume incompatibility between the forks, if not now then very soon; this is a “pick an option, then stick with it and pray” situation
  • tuwunel apparently has a full-time paid dev working on it now, which is great; at the same time, that means features will follow the priorities of the (as of now unknown) sponsor of the project
  • it is, however, the officially endorsed successor
  • it also seems like few other people are actively involved, putting in question development practices, reviews, and what happens should the lead dev throw in the towel
  • lastly, while there’s been a lot of apparently rapid progress (with releases 1.0.0, 1.1.0, and 1.2.0 at quite a fast pace), the repo itself seems… empty? Few issues, few PRs, commentlessly-deleted issues
  • on the other hand, continuwuity seems more active by commit/contributors count, but is seemingly 100% volunteer work
  • they do seem to backport tuwunel changes and features, which is great!
  • they are not officially endorsed

In short: I fucking hate community drama. What fork did you go with? Is there anything else to consider? I just want an up-to-date matrix homeserver, and not to have to tell my users “sorry, starting from scratch because we picked the wrong fork…”

  • arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    10 hours ago

    Gotta be honest, I got fed up and just… shut down my server when conduwuit died. I might come back to matrix if the ecosystem becomes less of a joke, but I’m really not holding my breath about it. Community drama is the worst.

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      7 hours ago

      Understandable. Funny thing is, I’m not even federated; I think that keeps me away from a lot of drama.

      But yeah. The drama sucks, and so does the Matrix Foundation. So many dumb decisions, so many years old issues that could easily boost acceptance and usability, but… Nah. No better alternatives around though if you want to own your data, have proper multi-client support, and at least the option to federate.

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    14 hours ago

    I’m in the same boat. Keep me updated if you go forwards. I think I’m going to wait 2 more weeks or so and then make a decision. Community-driven sounds nice. I wasn’t aware of cuntinuwuity yet. And yes, all the drama and burnt-out people isn’t nice or healthy at all. It’s a shame that this is the state of messengers these days.

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      10 hours ago

      Roger, will do.

      Yeah, community driven sounds like unless there’s new drama. But yeah, currently tending towards continuwuity. Purely vibes based from snooping around both repos.