Reminder that Microsoft is trying to shift Windows to be entirely cloud based, so this can easily happen overnight without your consent. You don’t own your OS. Linux is the only way, unless you’re one of those strange BSD folks.
>b-but muh proprietary software and vidya gaymes!!!
Ik this is sarcastic but the video games issue is real regardless of Proton and its derivatives on Linux. Windows really is the best way to game right now
I feel that this very much depnd on which games you’re playing. Competitive or Roblox, Windows is the better choice. Majority of the games I play though works without any issues on Linux.
I’ve heard that some games even are faster on Linux even when running proton buy it isn’t anything I’ve myself has investigated.
Gaming is one of my main intrests and I’ve been playing on Linux for at least ten years. It’s not for everyone I guess.
Yeah, I built a new PC at the beginning of the pandemic and went Linux. I don’t even not windows and play all my games on there.
It’s great that it works for what you play, but it doesn’t for me. Hopefully the steamdeck train continues to pick up steam, because it’s pretty much the only reason Linux gaming is gaining ground.
I play Apex Legends ranked. It runs better on pop os than win11 on my PC.
As a #1 competitive Roblox player, I can agree
Is there a lot of monies in the competitive Roblox circuit?
Yeah I demand their lunch money
I think Roblox is the only game that has the kids booting into Windows. Another reason Roblox sucks, I suppose.
It really sucks that they went and blocked Linux. Before that it worked flawlessly. I was close to moving my kids over to Linux when they did.
Are you serious about roblox? Because I’m not much of a gamer, but kids play roblox and I was actualy planning on migrating to linux this summer.
Unfortunately yes, a month or so Roblox actively blocked Linux än VM:s. They claimed it is only temporarily until their new client is stable so that they can evaluate the results for windows first. General consensus seems to be that could just as well just filtered the results considering that they are able to block Linux all together.
I haven’t checked it out for a couple of weeks though so I don’t know if a workaround has been found. It’s annoying though because Roblox worked perfectly before that. I would have loved to migrate my kids computer’s to Linux as well since I got problems with rage every time I try to fix things on them 😅
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What is their reasoning?
There’s many different reasons (all of them ignorant or blatantly made in bad faith) but one that I recall off the top of my head is that, since Linux gives users more freedom and more control over their operating system and computer, playing on Linux makes it easier for you to cheat in games. They like that in Windows, there’s parts of the system that Microsoft simply doesn’t allow users to touch, because in some cases, they still can, so they can use that to implement things like
rootkitssorry I mean “kernel-level anti-cheat” that users have no effective way of removing or bypassing.I have always found this argument disingenuous. Cheaters still find a way. At the end of the day, if you don’t want cheaters, then play games with people you trust.
I went fulltime Linux and therefor bought a full AMD system (better drivers) one year ago. I played about 15 games the last year, some of them AAA titles, rarely had problems, and all of them could be fixed by looking on protondb.com (unless the problems came from the game itself of course).
There are some titles which will not support Linux on purpose although it surely would run just fine, for whatever reasons, e.g. fortnite.
Yeah that’s been my experience, but that won’t be the case for everyone. I mostly play singleplayer games, only a few multiplayer games, so it makes sense that I don’t have issues. But for someone who plays lots of multiplayer games, it wouldn’t work.
My setup is I have my gaming rig with a 4080 running Windows, then I turned my old PC gaming rig into an unRAID server. It’s a fully automated piracy machine running Plex. I just tell it what I want to download on my website.
Same here. Unraid + Arrs + Plex/Jellyfin + Overseer/Ombi + DelugeVPN + 50 other containers I have running
Excellent setup
I do all my gaming in Linux. Yeah there’s some games i really wanted to play that don’t work in Linux, but there are so many games i can’t hope to play them all anyway.
I made the jump several years ago to full Linux and never looked back. I game a bunch, built my own custom PC’s for years. Linux has been great, and gaming on it has become fantastic.
The Steam Deck has helped push it even further, at this point I don’t really check if games run on Linux, I assume they do and 95% of the time I’m right.
The few games that flat out don’t run because of Anti-Cheat, I either wait until they are eventually supported, (Dead by Daylight, cough) or I just give them up. It isn’t worth it to me to sacrifice my freedom, privacy, and consumer rights just to play a certain video game when there are literally 10’s of thousands of games out there that I could play that run perfectly fine on Linux.
Are you saying the video game complaint isn’t real? You have a solution? 90% of my personal PC use is gaming, otherwise anything I used to use my PC for is done with my phone.
Until Linux can support my entire steam library, I don’t see why I’d bother.
I can’t live without Call of Dooty!
oh no the 4chan meme arrow speak
I wish that was the only thing. I work in science/engineering and lots of software that control equipment are only windows.
There are options like using virtual machines, but it’s way to cumbersome and prone to errors, you don’t want a measurement that took half a day get ruined because of a stupid communication error.
They aren’t trying to move to be completely cloud based. That was a bad headline that misconstrued what they were actually doing. The article actually just talked about how they wanted Windows to be fully streamable from the cloud as an option.
That’s exactly how Office365/Microsoft365 got it’s start. Now, instead of buying a copy of Office, you subscribe to Microsoft365.
I’m assuming that the path from cloud as an option to subscription based OS will be a little faster. To be fair, I wouldn’t be surprised if the stripped down locally installed version is offered as a Freemium option. Air-gapped and non-online computers usually just do one thing anyways. Most aren’t being used to watch movies, buy stuff, etc.
My prediction would be that within 5 years, probably sooner, if you don’t subscribe to your cloud-based Microsoft Windows OS, you’ll have a bare-bones experience. Good enough for kiosks and such.
Granted, you are correct, the article passed around only talks about how it’s an option right now, with some benefits… but we’ve all seen Microsoft do this exact same play before.
Now, instead of buying a copy of Office, you subscribe to Microsoft365
Naa, I just install Office and autopatch it.
its fake
It’s not fake but it is confusing. Pluton is a chip mostly meant for cloud infrastructure. I believe some surface devices have it too but either way just don’t use windows if you’re sailing the high seas.
just don’t use windows if you’re sailing the high seas.
Or just don’t use windows.
Must suck to be a Windows User
Common Microsoft L
Microsoft can’t be bothered to make a single, unified control panel but they have resources to work on shit like this.
I’ve never heard of microsoft pluton- that’s why I wasnt talking about it
Because Windows is known to be malicious spyware, and you should consider not tolerating it any longer.
I remember a similar scare when Vista was coming out, and then nothing happened. Probably the tech wasn’t ready then and now it is, that’s why is so encouraging so see big progress in Linux gaming, just in case.
Edit: found a source for the Vista thing https://www.forbes.com/2007/02/10/microsoft-vista-drm-tech-security-cz_bs_0212vista.html?sh=38c0bc9e175e
And yes, we know the picture is fake, but the Pluton platform is real and the nefarious intentions can always be counted on.
Imagine using Windows in 2023
That’s pretty easy to imagine based solely on statistical data.
I’m primarily a PC gamers and so many games would not be accessible to me if I made the switch to Linux, not to mention quote a few programs I use for my job. I tried to make the switch a few times and was not able to because of this.
If the games you play are competitive ones, sure. Only because the devs or publishers actively choose to exclude linux. So far, I’ve yet to try a game that hasn’t worked on linux.
What are programs that you use for work that don’t have linux equivalents or are incompatible? I’ve made the full switch, but if I really need to, I can remote into a Windows work computer for specific things like SAP access.
Can you help me get Septerra Core running in Linux? most games older than windows 7 don’t work in my experience. Septerra Core even apparently has a wine wrapper and I still can’t get it to work :(
Someone seems to have a solution on protondb, you can try that.
https://www.protondb.com/app/253940
A user named Kai has the details in his post.
That’s all changed. Checkout Protondb
There’s still a lot of games that don’t work in linux due to antcheat not working. A lot of the big online competitive games don’t work.
I don’t use Windows.
That is not a good surprise.
Yeah no… what is this? and where is this?
I’m on the latest stable version of W11 and I have tons of pirated content on my PC lmao
I’ve never gotten this message
This post was just a honeypot to see who admits to having possession of pirated content. Please stay where you are and authorities will be dispatched to your location shortly.
My 3rd world ass
Seems it requires specific hardware to run. Newer AMD or Snapdragon processors can run it, all other processors (currently) cannot.
I get a dialogue from Microsoft defender smart screen that looks mighty similar to this whenever I’ve done a clean install of Oobabooga’s Text Generation WebUI (for running local Large Language Models) with it basically going “are you really sure about running that” for an incredibly niche piece of software. OP seems to have lost the plot if you ask me, because quite frankly Microsoft will only be able to exert the level of influence over our machine if it were in the cloud running on their servers. and even then, they aren’t going to kill off the local windows install because funnily enough, the internet ain’t that available.
At this point non-internet connected Windows machines are such a niche part of their budget that they’re almost but not quite mandating cloud accounts just for installation. They can absolutely force this on people’s machines.
Never seen this. I’d want way more proof its real. that beside said if it comes to that its Linux time. I don’t prefer linux but I’ve found one that mostly works for me.
As a Linux user no. As a trend that could catch on in general consumer devices… yes
You are not authorized to view
collateral_murder.mp4because it contains unauthorized leaks of classified material. You’re access has been reported.I am access?
Yes, but you are access have been reported, so they reported that you are access.
All your reports are belong to us!
Yes. In order to run pirated content I had to run through a couple of hours of troubleshooting to disable the Microsoft anti-malware software, which would quarrantine and refuse to restore software without consent.
Pluton is a new name and may be Windows 11. Hopefully you can uninstall it with a third-party utility (windows utilities won’t let you, and doing it by hand involves mucking around with the registry.l
I’m going to make the switch to Linux once I can brave it because Windows is malware and spyware and getting worse with each iteration.
I’m going to make the switch to Linux
one of usSeriously, though, it’s easier than ever.
It really is. I’ve tried yearly and always have to go back to windows. Three months ago I tried again and I love it. Everything works, gaming is great, I’m over windows finally.
I’m going to make the switch to Linux…
This is the way.
If it took you a few hours to figure out how to play a pirated video then a Linux isn’t for you.
No one likes gate keeping. Ideally Linux would be easy for people at any level to switch to.
I’m not talking about it cause I’ve never seen that screen until now in this post
Damn, never seen that before. Is it a windows 11 thing? It’s looking more and more like I’ll have to move to linux on my desktop, I guess.
Edit: hard to find a source for the image; I assume if it was real there’d be a lot more reports of this online but I’m not seeing those.
basic research tells me it’s a… something integrated in the PC processor. AMD. It’s fairly new and started to be released only in some models last year. All this explains why I haven’t heard about it until now. Agreed this adds pressure to take on linux
Microsoft Pluton is hardware level SoC “zero trust” security that can be baked into the CPU. It’s an optional implementation of TPM for windows 11, basically, that’s much more invasive and harder to bypass when enabled. I’m not sure how or why it would involve itself in media playback though, since it’s capabilities seem to be focused around executable security and cryptographic OS/driver verification. So this screenshot is likely fake… for now.
It should be pretty transparent to avoid in the open market. It looks much more geared towards the enterprise space where you want machines to be locked down like this, but I’m sure it’ll creep into the consumer space once Microsoft decides it’s mandatory.
Microsoft: Pay us to license your program on our OS
Small-time developer: I haven’t even earned from this program and you want me to pay?
I still have a 8700K and haven’t really had the need to upgrade in a while. I’ll never buy a processor with something like this in it. If Microsoft forces it in new CPUs, I’m pretty sure I can make it the rest of my life with current hardware.
Yeah, me too. Silicon advances have gotten a lot more incremental and are in a point where if you buy high end current generation, you’ll probably have acceptable performance for 10 years or more. The Ryzen 7900x/7900xtx rig I’m building right this second I figure will last me at least 5 or 6 years without any upgrades, even when playing modern top of the line games.
Definitely not like it used to be, where you could upgrade every two years and double your computer’s performance to an insane degree.
No, nothing like that in win 11
Yeah after some googling I’m kinda thinking this is a fake screenshot, idk
