Rep. Joe Morelle, D.-N.Y., appeared with a New Jersey high school victim of nonconsensual sexually explicit deepfakes to discuss a bill stalled in the House.

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    There are already laws against creating false content about people, so adding more laws isn’t going to make the previous laws more or less valid and it’s only going to waste time and money.

    Of course it’s being pushed by a “teen” since this teen clearly doesn’t have any understanding of the issues at hand, the technology at hand nor the laws that already exist to help them with this issue.

    It was up to the adults around this teen to help her navigate the issue and instead the incompetent pieces of worthless shit choose to push a new bill against AI rather than use the current legal framework that exists to actually help this girl.

    Anything to abuse a child or teens situation for their political gain. Worthless trash.

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      If the laws on the books aren’t being enforced by the local executive branch because they don’t understand the technology or terminology and see where it applies the re-writing the law so its more clear what the crime was and how the law can be enforced is absolutely an option.

      The article states that there is no federal law governing the use and abuse of non-consensual deepfakes. The proposed bill also offers additional protections for victims. Putting that on the books isn’t a waste time or money. If the patchwork of local laws were working then this young woman wouldn’t be asking her congressperson of change.

      So I respectfully disagree with your take that it is political grandstanding and unnecessary.

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      Why did you put “teen” in scare quotes?

      It was up to the adults around this teen to help her navigate the issue

      Why do you assume they did not? What do you think they should do instead?

      Anything to abuse a child or teens situation for their political gain.

      Don’t you think it’s much stranger when people dismiss the abuse of children? For example, in this case: what do you think should have been done?

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        1. Pretending abortion is in the same realm as AI tool abuse is ridiculous and completely dishonest.

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        1. Scare quotes? Are you for real? Since you don’t understand, quotes denote emphasis or specificity, not emotion. “Teen”, the emphasis here, was used because teens are barely educated in legal matters and it’s their responsibility to seek assistance, not push legislation.

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        1. If the adults in that area had actually responded properly, there wouldn’t be an article about a new bill against AI, instead there’d be an article about defamation and debasement of a minor (likely by another minor, but that doesn’t mean the other minors parents are infallible in this situation, you are either parents or you’re not, if you are, you’re responsible for your brats actions, if you’re not, then the state will take the child and destroy them mentally, and likely physically, for your failures as a parent).

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        1. Not a single thing I said dismissed this, and I would go even further to say anyone pursuing the AI angle is the one dismissing this, especially given the laws that already exist that can be used to assist and protect the teen in question.

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        1. We’ve had adobe premier for more than 2 decades before generative AI and all of the issues surrounding deepfakes then cover every issue with generative AI now and wasting peoples time and money on this does not help improve the situation, instead it makes a mockery of the victim for the purposes of pushing an agenda.
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          the state will take the child and destroy them mentally, and likely physically

          What the heck are you talking about here?

          Of course it’s being pushed by a “teen” since this teen clearly doesn’t have any understanding of the issues at hand…

          …you’re responsible for your brats actions…

          it makes a mockery of the victim

          I’m glad you care about the dignity of the victim.

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              Spamming a wall of links doesn’t make you look smart, especially when you use the same link twice in a row. (archived)

              USA Today link posted twice in a row

              If anything, it makes you look like you don’t care. And if you do care, why not explain?

              Speaking of which, when I asked you what your preferred course of action was regarding the teen who had deepfake porn made of her, you didn’t really point to anything.

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          Since you don’t understand, quotes denote emphasis or specificity, not emotion.

          Actually quotes denote quotations. When used casually around an individual word or short phrase they generally indicate that the writer is emphasizing that these are someone else’s words, and that the writer would have chosen a different description. As in: These people are described as “teens” but are probably not only/mostly teenagers. That may not be what you meant, but it’s how that text will be read.

          If you just want emphasis you might consider using bold or italics rather than quotes.

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      It’s being pushed by someone who was a victim of deep fake ai porn, so I think they understand the issues at hand just fine, you don’t have to agree with her, but don’t be a patronizing asshole about it.

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        Thanks for not actually reading my comment and making it clear to everyone who did that you’re either illiterate or a dishonest asshole.

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          I read your comment just fine, and the way you spoke about the teen in question was incredibly patronizing.

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          Saying “this teen clearly doesn’t have an understanding of the issues at hand” is.

          trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com would call you “illiterate or a dishonest asshole” for missing that part of one of his walls of text, but honestly I think it’s understandable.

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            This is an actual law proceeding, with lawyers and adults involved. The teen is just the face of it.