Who would’ve thought? This isn’t going to fly with the EU.

Article 5.3 of the Digital Markets Act (DMA): “The gatekeeper shall not prevent business users from offering the same products or services to end users through third-party online intermediation services or through their own direct online sales channel at prices or conditions that are different from those offered through the online intermediation services of the gatekeeper.”

Friendly reminder that you can sideload apps without jailbreaking or paying for a dev account using TrollStore, which utilises core trust bugs to bypass/spoof some app validation keys, on a iPhone XR or newer on iOS 14.0 up to 16.6.1. (ANY version for iPhone X and older)

Install guide: Trollstore

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      Exactly my thoughts. “Let’s jailbreak this, bypass that, circumvent that one thing…” Why do you subject yourself to this with a device you paid hundreds of dollars for?

      As much as I’d like to have an iPhone, I’d rather not.

      As an aside, it’s the same thing with game consoles. Is the whole “you must be connected to the internet” thing still happening? That’s what has been preventing me from getting a new xbox, for example.

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        Steam Deck is pretty awesome in the offline gaming regard, if that’s what you might be looking for.

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          I’d argue that there are a lot of offline mode frustrations with Steam but none of them are Steam’s fault, they are all due to individual games online requirements or DRM implementations.

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            Steam literally warns you for every game. It tells you if you need to be online once or online every time. I don’t think you can blame them. If you buy games that require an online activation you can’t get upset that you can’t play offline.

            Example games:

            • Always online
              • Singleplayer gameplay requires an active Internet connection

            • Online activation
              • This game’s first-time setup requires an active Internet connection

            I do wish that this wasn’t hidden inside of the “Steam Deck Compatibility” section. (There is a yellow box about third-party DRM outside, but for the details you need to click the Steam Deck Compatibility box) But that is my only complaint.

            Personally I just don’t buy these games.

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            At least you can run the games in offline, even when you have to log in the first time.

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        I remember way back when I had my iPod Touch 4 (haven’t touched Apple since then) that I (intentionally) jailbroke it simply by tapping a button on a website in Safari. It was an exploit that used a bug in iOS’s PDF software, I believe.

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        Honestly? Nothing. People just say this kind of thing because we like to tinker with our devices. If what you bought satisfies your needs and you don’t need more, that’s just ok. Android/windows/linux has a lot more conveniences for my use, so that’s what I go for, but not everyone is the same

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          Android/windows/linux has a lot more conveniences for my use

          That’s kind of my point. I don’t get the aggression people have for someone using different brand.

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            I don’t get the aggression people have for someone using different brand.

            People identify the business decisions that Apple makes to be anti-consumer. They then feel frustration and anger for users of Apple products as support for their products only emboldens Apple to continue making anti-consumer decisions, such as the subject of this article.

            Apple is a microcosm representation of the evils of capitalism for many people and they project their feelings about it - powerlessness, disgust, anger, etc. - onto users of Apple products. People associate support for iPhones which enjoys a 61% US market share as support for the boot of capitalism on our throats regardless of whether the Apple user doesn’t know, doesn’t care, or doesn’t agree.

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              Also Apple’s anti-consumer decisions usually transfer to other places (such as Android) aswell, because they have a lot of influence on the rest of the market.

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                Pretty much this. If other brands see the vitriol, then they might think “well, guess not being that way is a way to be competitive”.

                If everyone sounds perfectly cool with that facet, then everyone else goes “sweet, the Apple way gives the vendor more control over the customer, and control over the customer is valued, if we think we can get away with it”

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              If it just remains Apple who did it i wouldn’t mind but there they are a bit of a product leader.

              Off forging the way ahead for under consumer BS everywhere.

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                Agreed. This is what I was implying by citing their OS market share in mobile devices in the US and I could have clarified better.

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                  I just wanted to clarify if I understood the point correctly, labeling just shortens the answer.

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                    I don’t know if you understand the point. I and other users have tried to help. If you have any more specific questions, just ask.

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              Sure, but tribalism with a brand is just beyond my understanding (hyperbole), - it’s so stupid.

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                Apple influence the market a lot. So paid side-loading can propagate to other companies if Apple can pull it off.

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                  For sure! An amount of “hate” for apple, or any company for that matter, is totally ok. Sometimes they make decisions that screw consumers just for a buck more. No reason to hate on users, tho. That’s the same as saying anyone who uses a gas vehicle to go from one place to another is in favor of global warming

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                    I kinda disagree with the comparison, but I agree that it is dumb the blame the users.

                    However, from a certain perspective, users enable companies. So some people hate the users for that. And some other people just have a bad case of tribalism.

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                    I am not personally hating on the apple users, but considering that people continue to buy Apple products even after these anti-consumer practices, then some people consider that the users enable the company.

                    So I can see where that is coming from. And some people are just tribal idiots.

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        A MacBook is the only Apple product I’m happy with cause it’s actually open in terms of being able to install any app I want and modify some things like how windows are managed.

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          I had an iPhone, but for my use case they are just to expensive. I have a 100 euro android phone that does everything I ever need.

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        Come back when you have a problem with your keyboard*, or your drive, or charging issue. Repairability is downright bad now.

        I like OSX well enough.* I like the form factor of the MacBooks now that they have escape keys again. It’s been 9 years since they made a MacBook that was reasonably decent to work on from the inside though. Even swapping a broken screen out is* like 3 hours now.

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          I’v been using mac books over a decade so not sure when I need to come back here. I was unhappy with the usbc only mac book pro and considered switching but the m1 fixed issues i had, so I’m here again. Just imagine that there are people out there who don’t care to much about repair-ability.

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      but apple sets “standards” that other companies blindly follow. it’s the reason why we have non-removable batteries, no charger inside the box, no audio jack, etc.