• TheBananaKing@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Actually it’s an effective cloud-based password manager that doesn’t rely on local storage or weird plugins or backups.

      That’s what keeps me using chrome. I could lose everything in a house fire, pick up any device, log in and have access to all my stuff without any further action on my part, right out of the box.

      That’s the only feature I care about, and chrome is the only browser I’ve seen that provides it.

      Get me that in firefox, and I’ll switch today.

      • 📛Maven@lemmy.sdf.org
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        What are you talking about? Firefox has had literally Sync since before Chrome existed.

        Firefox Sync initial release: December 21, 2007

        Google Chrome intial release: September 2, 2008 (Beta), (1.0) December 11, 2008

        A full year, my guy.

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        I’m confused since Firefox Sync has been letting you sync/backup your passwords, bookmarks and history for a decade or two at this point, and you can even self-host the sync server.

        I don’t know the complete FF password manager details (Bitwarden user here) but where does Firefox fall short for you?

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        10 months ago

        You can lose your Google account in the blink of an eye with no recourse, no access to support or anything.

        With local and my own backups, I can choose to put them at any location, cloud or local.

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        10 months ago

        I have all that functionality today with FF… Not sure when you last checked, but if you create a Mozilla account and log in to FF you can sync all the same stuff as Chrome does.

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          Checked it out: apparently I had a mozilla account at one point in time. Hit ‘forgot password’:

          Note: When you reset your password, you reset your account. You may lose some of your personal information (including history, bookmarks, and passwords). That’s because we encrypt your data with your password to protect your privacy.

          Forgot your password: fuck you.

          This is the exact fucking opposite of the behaviour I’d ever want from a password manager.

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            10 months ago

            I think that’s what most people want in a password manager. The only way to have a truly secure pw manager is to encrypt it and failsafe to delete. That way if your identity gets stolen or email compromised, it limits the damage.

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              10 months ago

              Said another way: if a company offering a password manager can recover all your passwords with you just clicking “forgot password”, that means they can read your passwords in plain text (and so can hackers if the company gets hacked).

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            Forgot your password: fuck you.

            This is the exact fucking opposite of the behaviour I’d ever want from a password manager.

            Wait wait wait wait, you’re telling me you want the people who hold your password to be able to view them without your explicit permission (entering a secret that unlocks your vault)? Because that’s what you’re asking for - if they can reset your password and provide you your plaintext passwords, that means they can 1) read your passwords if they chose to and 2) you can be phished and have your account stolen and passwords provided to some rando.

            The convenience offered by that “feature” is outweighed by the potential consequences of it existing. Passwords should absolutely be a Trust No One (TNO) solution.

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        That’s great until Google finds that one picture of your child at the pool and immediately deletes your CSAM-harboring filthy account.