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    For anyone who thinks they’re “stuck” with chrome, Firefox has gotten it’s shit together massively in the last few years.

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      Which is why Google’s next step is to effectively require chromium browsers for any websites wanting access to Google services and products.

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        Sounds like a good reason to stop using Google services and products. Some examples (note, I haven’t used some of these yet):

        Search - DuckDuckGo

        Email - ProtonMail

        Drive - Dropbox

        Sheets/Docs - Zoho

        Some of these examples may not the best for everyone, but my point is that we do not have to let Google continue to push us around.

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          No, it sounds like a good reason for anti-trust regulators to make an injunction to stop Google from doing it.

          It’s time for this fantasy bullshit notion that boycotts are worth a damn to end. In reality, it’s nothing but pro-corporate propaganda designed to make people think they’re “fighting the man” or whatever when they’re actually completely ineffective.

          Now, don’t get me wrong: by all means, please feel free to quit using Google’s shit! That’s 100% a good thing and I fully encourage it! Just don’t delude yourself into thinking it represents even the slightest shred of a solution to the systemic problem Google’s anticompetitive strategies represent.

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            Regulars are too busy trying to get rid of encryption. A double edged sword in the situation with Google’s drm

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          It’s not you and me. It’s the websites. They’re not going to give up on having anyone with Chrome or using Google services from being able to access their sites. We’d end up with 2 Internets - one with Google and one without. And we all know that the one with Google will win.

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            These are built from the open source version of Android and do not have Google stuff:

            • LineageOS
            • GrapheneOS (can be installed on Pixels)

            These are based on various flavors of Linux (Android is technically a flavor of Linux too):

            • PureOS (Librem 5 line by Purism)
            • Ubuntu Touch (support for lots of devices, but typically not the flagships)
            • Manjaro OS (on PinePhone by PINE64, an open source hardware community, which is the best way I can describe it)
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        Feels bad but I can’t condone this behaviour anymore and I feel ashamed that I haven’t seen the greed Google is capable of doing.

        In the coming months I will do my best to migrate away from the Google system, even if I end up paying a tad more, maybe just in time to set up a home server for photos.

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            Well, if you can live with the fact that you need to either use the webmailer, their mobile apps or the bridge on desktop to use standard mail/calendar/anything software. I tried for a few years to migrate to PM (with a paid plan) but failed :(

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        Oh, but it will not be GOOGLE’s next step. I dont think it is the goal anyway. They only need to help site owners to sign up to their WEI thing, and there will be oh so many incentives. Google will be happy to license it out, or even make the toolkit fully opensource, to whoever wants to implement it in their browser, regardless of the engine used. Their obvious ultimate goal is to show the ads with no interruptions, which also happens to be the desire of most of the websites. And many websites will willingly implement it on their side, they do not really need too much encouragement.

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        There is no way anything like this would ever go through. Google’s own lawyers would quickly put a stop at this. It is known that Google sometimes has used features that for Firefox is problematic at least for YouTube, but it eventually is resolved by changes in FF

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      I dont understand when people think Firefox didn’t have their shit together. Been using it since 2006 and never had an issue. Ya’ll must be doing some serious browsing.

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        Been using since release. I never felt like I was making some kind of compromise by using it. Firefox always had their shit together from my experience.

        Now, it’s on par with Chrome or better than (tradeoffs and personal preference), even for developing web apps. Firefox dev tools pull ahead of Chrome’s, then Chrome catches up and does something new and useful, then Firefox catches up, and so forth.

        Firefox is good. It’s not like “I’m leaving Photoshop for the GIMP” kind of thing-- It’s like “I’m leaving Honda for Toyota.”

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        When chrome was released, Firefox felt bloated visually and slow. I switched to chrome with the initial release, then tried to come back to Firefox some years later. Still felt like it was slow.

        Im back trying it again. The desktop browser seems to work alright, but I’m growing weary of the Android app.

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        i remember it looking pretty sketchy and bad back in the day while chrome looked a lot nicer and user friendly

        im a firefox user now i think chrome looks ugly compared to firefox nowadays

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        Been using FF since forever, never felt my experience was in any way slow compared to Chrome.

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        It was really slow before Quantum happened and it’s smooth sailing ever since imo.

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      Now you can use desktop extensions on firefox mobile. They stepped up big time.

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        Did they lift the “only curated extensions” bullshit yet? I’m on Kiwi just to be able to run my own (unpacked) extensions that FF doesn’t let me do so.

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          Not yet but it’s coming very soon!

          It’s already in nightly, and usually after nightly (if everything is fine/works well/etc) then it usually take 3-6months before it’s in mainline.

          (iirc)

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      Firefox has never not had it’s shit together. It’s worked fine. I never understood people having issues with it, unless they were running like 50 extensions and a bunch of grease monkey scripts along with a crusty old profile with a massive cache of old data.

      Meanwhile everyone is complaining about Chrome eating up all their RAM

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        Funnily enough Chromium actually consumes less RAM and is safer due to better sandboxing.

        But neither of these concern the average user. However, the main difference between the browsers user may notice is how pages that are still loading behave. Firefox has the correct behavior. Aka waiting for vast majority of the elements to finish loading versus Chromium just going “if it’s rendered it’s intractable.” This unfortunately means that Firefox feels slower even though it’s actually faster.

        Also, on behalf of the dark mode enjoyers, flashing white for a moment while launching, loading web pages or updating contents of a webpage is incredibly annoying. None of the Chromium browsers flash white on dark mode.

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      Any idea if Firefox has a good translation extension? Like Chrome has Google translate that actively translates the sites you enter into English.

      I live in a country that I don’t speak the language of, so I often need to use websites and translate them to English, which is why I’ve been stuck with Chrome.

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      I don’t think FF supports PWAs yet. I need to use Chromium to turn some sites like Discord into PWAs, as the desktop Linux version doesn’t screen share on Wayland. I also like having YTM as an app.

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        I believe that there is an extension for Firefox pwa support, but the Android version definitely supports pwas natively.

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          Yes, FF Android does, the extension for the desktop was very janky last time I used it. Mozilla just needs to support it natively IMO.

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            Works pretty well for me. They patched a lot of issues over the last year, so maybe give it another try.

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      How can I disable autoplay after user interaction on mobile? On desktop this works via about:config but there’s no such thing for mobile.

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      There have been quite a few questionable decisions by Mozilla though, they have focused on some very weird things, not to mention scandals about management salaries (No idea how it is now). I really really hope they will not follow suite which honestly is not as far fetched as one could think.

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      Does Firefox support multiple windows on iPad OS yet? That was the reason I stayed with Chrome for so long, and also is why I’ve more recently switched to Edge as the only other cross-platform browser I could find that had that.

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        Firefox on ios is barely more than just a skin to Safari.

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        I’m not sure, but Firefox on iOS isn’t true Firefox. To my knowledge, Apple doesn’t allow browsers to use anything but their Safari engine. As another user put it, “Firefox on iOS is barely more than a skin for Safari.

        I can speak to Firefox on desktop and Android, however: they’re fantastic!

        tl;dr: If FF sucks on iOS, it’s Apple’s fault.

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          If FF sucks on iOS, it’s Apple’s fault.

          Nope, not in this case. iPad OS has supported multiple windows of the same app for years now (since 2018 or 2019), and Safari naturally supported it out of the gate. Google supported it in Chrome very quickly, and Microsoft got around to it with Edge last year.

          It turns out that while the rendering part of all browsers on iOS is Safari, the skin and UI elements (the “chrome” that Google’s browser was named after) are all custom to each app. And Firefox has been very poor at upgrading theirs.

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            That’s so weird, then, that it’d be so radically different than it is on Android. Why do you think that is?

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              Is it radically different? It’s a feature that iPad OS supports that the iPhone version of iOS doesn’t, and I don’t think Android does (though I’ve not used an Android tablet in nearly 10 years, so maybe tablets on Android can do it?). Obviously desktops all support multiple windows and have done forever. Technically, by not having implemented this feature it actually means it’s more similar to Android.

              Firefox is rather under-resourced in terms of developer power, and they’ve been consistently prioritising other things rather than implementing this feature. I don’t think there’s much more to it than that. It’s a perfectly reasonable explanation for why they haven’t done it—any team needs to prioritise what they work on. But it’s also reasonable for a user who values that feature to choose a competitor that has delivered it over one that has not. That’s the natural trade-off.

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                I’m dumb, and had to reread what you wrote. I thought you meant tabs this whole time (doh). I haven’t even used an iPad before, so I didn’t know that feature existed. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen multiple windows of Firefox on Android (but you can have multiple apps open side-by-side).

                I think it is unlikely Mozilla would support that feature, given the lack of resources and demand; iPad’s are niche.

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                  Yeah and that’s fine. I’m not saying Firefox is evil for not having this feature or anything like that. I’m merely explaining why it is that I find it to be a sub-par option, and why I choose Edge instead, for the moment.

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        I mean this with no personal enmity: piss off with your iPad. (Don’t expect power user features to actually be good)

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          Umm, why? With all due respect, why would you expect me to stop using a device that does everything I want it to perfectly well? I use Edge and it syncs with my Windows desktop and Android phone perfectly well. Both Edge and Google Chrome have supported this feature. It’s only Firefox that is being a laggard.

          This is not an iPad problem, it’s a Firefox one.

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        Nah, Apple doesn’t allow any other browser engines on iOS other than their own, so every browser available on it is just safari.

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          Sure, but that’s not actually my point.

          Since 2018 or so, iPad OS has supported multiple windows of the same application, but only if the app developer supports it. Safari, of course, supported this immediately. Google got around to implementing it pretty quickly on Chrome. Edge took years before they finally got there last year or maybe the year before.

          Firefox, last time I checked (which was admittedly a few months ago) still did not support it. Plus, on their GitHub page, there was some talk about trying to implement it in a really dumb way, with each window sharing all the same tabs—completely defeating the point of the feature, in my opinion.

          When wanting sync between my desktop (Windows), phone (Android), and tablet (iPad OS), I don’t really care what renderer is used under the hood. I care what name brand is on the browser and what it’s able to sync with. Firefox syncs with Firefox, even when Firefox is secretly Safari.

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      Firefox is the only browser on Android which still doesn’t have tabs. Wrangling multiple tabs on a tablet or foldable is just a pain on Firefox. Chrome on standard screen sizes even has tab groups. Until then, Firefox is a no go for me.

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      Most people don’t use an ad blocker and most people don’t even know this drama exists.

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            Reddit tried to force me ads down the throat and I just stopped using it. Yeah, it’s hard, but I ended up having more time for myself. I don’t get to send silly Videos to my friends as often, but who gives a fuck. At least I get time to hoover and shit

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      I’m from the Philippines and I can explain why, at least here, most people still use chrome. Over here, we’re much more concerned about our money and time over our rights and privacy, which means we usually just choose the most convenient and cheap money-wise, which is why the majority of us still use chrome and why the government here can get away with so much shit. we don’t care about our rights not because we’re being given bread and circuses, but because we’re too busy making a circus out of ourselves so we can buy bread.

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          I think you misunderstood what they are trying to convey.

          Yes, it’s quick and easy to install (privacy respecting alternative). But to even get to the point that you recognize that you need that alternative is a time commitment as well. They are so busy trying to stay alive and support themselves that they don’t have the extra mental registers to devote to keeping up with privacy implications of popular software.

          Not to mention, some software now suffers from IE6-itis, except this time with chromium. So if a user encounters one of those issues on an important site, they’re more likely to drift over to the chromium side again. That friction alone causes more hardship for a person in their situation than simply giving up some privacy for convenience.

          They’re also not even making excuses. They’re simply telling you what the point of view is in their world.

          Your current approach presents a holler-than-thou attitude that is rude and off-putting. Ultimately, it’s not your job nor mine to chastise them for their choices. If they’re reading this thread, that shows interest in the topic.

          Allow them to discover it for themselves (with guided encouragement and assistance if requested) instead of being guilted into a decision. That will have a much more long-lasting impact.

          I see the method you attempt all over the Internet, and it always has the same effect of contributing to a toxic, elitist culture. IMHO, that needs to stop if we have any chance of changing more minds to be privacy-aware.

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            Fair enough! It does take a lot of time to build an understanding of the issue here and I failed to take that into account. I realize not everyone has that sort of time, inclination or even general interest in the subject and that privacy is not exactly at the top of values for most people.

            Still, I think people as individuals are still at least a little bit at fault for the way things are, though certainly the most of it falls on the system that fails to teach people about this sort of stuff and on the corporations that take advantage of that lack of knowledge.

            I guess I let my frustration get the better of me in my comment. Sometimes it feels like there’s this massive fire raging in the middle of the city and just a handful of us are trying to put out at least a tiny proportion if it while the rest just don’t care about it.

            Anyways, thank you for the well-written response, kind stranger, and for making me self reflect!

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              You got it! We all need a little reminder to take context into account sometimes. And I do appreciate what you were trying to do, which is promote privacy. It’s a laudable goal, and one that I encourage you to continue. Just remember to meet people where they are, instead of where you want them to be. ;)

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          it’s not about how easy it is to install it’s that it has to be installed at all. Over here we prefer phones as there’s a lot of cheap phones here that only cost less than $100, and since most phones here come preinstalled with chrome, even if firefox is free and all, why go through the hassle of having to go and install it when Chrome’s already there?

          most people here have a mindset of “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” which explains a lot of things wrong in this country.

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        Lol. The privacy bits are what always make me doubt people who say they use iOS for privacy reasons. They’ll scream that and then install every google service they can on the same phone.

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        Most people just use the default browser on their phone, even in developed countries. Add to that Google’s constant nagging to switch to Chrome which has a powerful effect at keeping their dominance.

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      Chrome is the new IE, some websites only work on it, and i keep chromium for the same reason i had ie back then, to be able to use those sites.

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      I use Google Docs a lot and the only reason I haven’t uninstalled Chrome is that, for whatever reason, the fonts don’t display right on Firefox. They used to years ago but I suspect they changed something to negatively impact other browsers.

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      Why? It does everything a non-techie would expect from browser and it performs well, why switch to something else?

      That said I think Chrome is a terrible Chromium based browser. Edge and Vivaldi in my opinion are much better options. Edge for most folk and Vivaldi for more adventurous types.

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    This is just more of the same. Every time some company thinks they’ve thrown enough money at the problem to DRM their way to success, somebody inevitably finds a fix, workaround, or bypass. Sometimes within a single day.

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      The main issue is that no-one in past, be it movie, music, or gaming industry, had the control which Google has with the web.

      Web is 90% Chromium, Email is 60+% Gmail, Android is 70+% mobile worldwide, and Google already provides a lot of things like Google login, oAuth, etc. for free.

      This means for a web dev, making a website WEI compatible shouldn’t be much of a hassle, and if they protest, Google can totally twist their arms to get us way.

      WEI is dangerous because who’s behind it, not because what it is.

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        Not to mention AdSense and YouTube with whatever percentages they control of their respective markets. Google holds a lot of separate monopolies for just one company

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    Stopped even looking at chrome since yrs. If they force their services even via chrome based browsers, I will dump their offerings as much as possible.

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      Google has kicked up such a revolt that I find it easy to convince everyone to use Firefox. If they think they can keep abusing their userbase like this, then they are in for a surprise.

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    Google can do whatever bullshit they want, I am still not letting go of adblock

    I won’t use sites with WEI or adblock blockers

    I won’t use chromium

    You can lead the sheep to the spyware but you can’t force them to open it

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        They may kill this iteration of ad blockers. But there will always be another and another. Google has a lot of smart people working for them. There are also a lot of smart people in the FOSS community that will eventually find a way around it.

        At the end of the day there will still be people recording songs by holding two boom boxes together.

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          Make software that runs on your computer that uses machine learning to detect ads on you screen and put kitties and puppy pictures over them. Browser and sites couldn’t do shit about it unless they start acting like anticheats scanning your computer for that software etc…

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      Hm, can we make an anti-WEI movement? Have a bunch of websites block browsers using WEI, to force it away?

      I know that won’t actually work, but a man can dream…

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        Donate to orgs like the EFF, Mozilla, and the FSF. Lobby your congressperson, your senators, and Biden to make the FTC to start doing its goddamn job again and enforce antitrust law.

        The only real solution to this creeping megalomaniacal monopolistic behavior is legislative.

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          The real hope is the EU doing the right thing again and curb stomping the fuck out of google and hopefully the results spread across the world.

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          I mean, yeah, that’s why I said it wouldn’t work. Maybe if there was a website that was big enough that it would drive people to use non-WEI browsers if they couldn’t access it, but any website big enough to do that would also want WEI for ad venue.

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            The only big website that could even come close to doing this (they won’t, and if they did it wouldn’t work, but they’re big enough that the attempt would at least be noticed) is Wikipedia.

            A slightly more “productive” (sort of) avenue of approach would be another large corporation for whom Google is a competitor, and who themselves doesn’t rely (as much) on advertising, interfering with WEI for their own self-interested reasons. Apple is the most likely candidate here, although again, I don’t think that’s likely to happen.

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      Yeah, who would’ve thought that the advertising company would modify their software so that it doesn’t work if you block the advertisements.

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      Just because it’s built on Chromium doesn’t mean it has to follow Chromes rules. I know that’s hard for you Firefox fanboys to admit though. Google will die but there’s Edge, Opera, Brave, Vivaldi, and more.

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        But any browsers that use Chromium have to obey google even if they like it or not

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          No, Chromium is FOSS and every compay or dev is free to modify it to their like. Do you think that Windows with EDGE follow the rules of Google in this Chromium? Or the Chinese Opera? Vivaldi also don’t with its gutted Chromium, But Mozilla does, even with Google devs working on Firefox, because Google is its major sponsor. Sends Data to Alphabet and Google analytics, because Mozilla made the mistake of making a contract with the devil, losing independence by relying on outside investors, above the worst one.

          I know that the Firefox fanboys are going to pepper me with downvotes now, because life is hard and so is the truth. The enemy is Google not the engine. Chromium folds to Google only if you use it as-is, without bothering to remove the GoogleAPIs it contains by default.

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            Google needs to sponsor Firefox because if Firefox goes away, they will get hit with the monopoly stick of the EU and get bigger restrictions.

            Just like what happened with Internet Explorer.

            So it is imperative to Google to keep Firefox afloat whatever the cost. And Firefox has to do nothing in return other than exist.

            Mozilla does not send any data to Google, which you can not say from any of the Chromium-based browsers like Edge.

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              Edge the last one, in EDGE all telemetries go to MS, Towerdata (the worst one, which use even keyloggers) and other afiliate sites. Firefox need the money from Google, because to maintan its Infrastructure, servers, bread and water for its devs. etc

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    Laughs in Firefox. (Specifically FireDragon)

    Edit: Since there was some confusion in the comments about what FireDragon is, I will explain it here. FireDragon is the default browser on Garuda Linux. FireDragon is a fork of Librewolf, which is in-turn a fork of Firefox. Librewolf’s main goal is to provide the most privacy possible to its user, though it might be at the cost of some sites breaking. FireDragon is a fork of Librewolf, it reduces some of the privacy settings that Librewolf uses, in order for sites to not break, but while still retaining most of the privacy features. dr460nf1r3 the developer of FireDragon said “This fork ships saner defaults to also include regular (not paranoid 😋) users of Garuda Linux in its audience” [1] Paragraph 2, Line 6

    FireDragon from my perspective is focused around Garuda Linux, so a lot of its features are designed for users of Garuda Linux in mind.

    More information about FireDragon can be found here: https://forum.garudalinux.org/t/firedragon-librewolf-fork/5018, here: https://github.com/dr460nf1r3/firedragon-browser, and here: https://dr460nf1r3.org/projects/firedragon/

    More Information about Librewolf can be found here: https://librewolf.net/

    More Information about Garuda Linux can be found here: https://garudalinux.org/

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            FireDragon (my understanding is that FireDragon is built from LibeWolf) and LireWolf is a custom and independent version of Firefox, with the primary goals of privacy, security and user freedom. LibreWolf (and FireDragon I assume) is designed to increase protection against tracking and fingerprinting techniques, while also including a few security improvements.

            I don’t use either, I use just firefox so maybe a user of FireDragon could give you more.

            Edit: Take a look at Jao’s post again, he updated it with more info on FireDragon.

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            Idk, looking at the code, it doesn’t look like it does much other than preinstall some useful add-ons and also remove some search providers, among Other privacy things - it also Reskins the about page, code wise there’s really nothing different - It’s like setting privacy to higher than max.

            Best to look through the code to see what it does before you use it. Just a brief skim I’ve noticed that for some reason it disables WebGL. Not sure why, it doesn’t specify a reason. It could completely break some websites.

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              WebGL can jeopardize your privacy on some untrusted sites by revealing your hardware specs, allowing sites to fingerprint you easier. The TOR Browser does it for the same reason.

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              Not sure why, it doesn’t specify a reason. It could completely break some websites.

              It’s 2023 and Firefox still does not have a per-site / per-domain toggle for WebGL, so it’s on them. It stays disabled on my end, and if a site requires it I just open a temporary tab in a different profile with WebGL enabled.

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      I’ve actually looked at the papers published, and I don’t even understand how what they’re proposing could possibly cause adblock removal. Web Environment Integrity happens at a layer before things like adblock even loads. They’re completely independent processes. So the whole thing feels like misdirected fear imo.

      So… to answer your question. Never.

      You should fear though. This will give Google unprecedented control over the internet. Just not fear for adblock.

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        I don’t think post is talking about Web Environment Integrity. I instead think that it’s talking about Manifest v3 as the Chrome web store now blocks Manifest v2 extensions from being submitted - with support expected to be removed from Chrome in 2024.

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    The day I can’t block ads is the day I stop browsing the internet. I’ve been blocking ads since the popups and banner days.

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    Honestly just shocked how well Adblockalypse rolls off the tongue despite being the linguistic equivalent of three kids in a trench coat

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    They really do want us to use Firefox, don’t they?

    There is convenience in being used to a browser, but there is more convenience in not having to deal with ads. That’s why I use Firefox on Android.

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      Hey! Don’t let them know that they’re doing the world a favor! You know - the ‘don’t be evil’ thing.

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      I honestly don’t get people that say “I use Chrome because I’m used to it”. It’s not like Firefox and Chrome are immensely different when it comes to UX, right? The interface is pretty similar.

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        Sure. But I also professionally use a product that works better on Chrome (and Edge nowadays) so I’m lazy about it. Eventually I’ll move to Firefox on my home PC. But in on my work PC and phone 95% of the time already so it’s not going to make a huge dent.

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    Users when company who makes billions in profit off of ads modifies their browser to forcefully show more ads: 🤯😟