USA is the edgy teen after moving out of the parents house (Europe) and finally doing stuff their own way. Not because it is practical, but because they feel rebellious.
Lol, This is probably the best explanation of America that I’ve ever heard.🤣👍🏾
Many of us are not from Europe
What year are you living in, 1951?
USA was colonized by europeans mostly, I believe ?
20% of the population in 1776 were slaves who came from Africa. There are more countries outside Europe
Date Formats:
Aug 9, 20239 Aug, 20238/9/2023 US9/8/2023 GB2023/8/9Correct Date Formats:
9 AUG, Juche 112 ✅
2023-08-09
Only for files
*9 AUG, Duche 112✅️😉
1691881601
Best format.
%s
Majority of the world uses YYYY-MM-DD. Day 1st makes no sense. If you need the month or year it should come 1st. You need to zoom into what you need not select from any number of months with the same day. That would be like putting time with seconds 1st.
Not really, most countries use YYYY-MM-DD to save documents, photos or archive papers.
DD-MM-YYYY is for daily usage.
The way I see it, the US just writes it the way it’s spoken. “August 9th, 2023” vs. “the 9th of August, 2023”.
Sorry, guess I forgot about that classic American holiday, July 4th
That is indeed how many Americans say it.
That also doesn’t make a lot of sense though, does it. In my language, the day comes first. Also when spoken.
It does in real English too.
No, the US just chose this order and speaks it the same way. I don’t speak it this way, you’re just used to it (just like everyone is to the way they speak it)
Yeah, but in proper English, as spoken in England, we would say “9th of August, not August the 9th”
Just like the comment above mine wrote it
Can’t believe relevant xkcd hasn’t been posted.
That standard can go fuck itself
The correct standard is dd/mm/yyyy
Why would you have minutes inbetween there and not months?
? I do have months in the “mm”
He’s making a pedantic joke. Lower case m is sometimes used to indicate minutes.
Albeit a weak one since many formats use lowercase m to indicate month. Such as programming languages like python & PHP. IBM & Microsoft standards also use lowercase m and so forth.
One of my biggest gripes when I worked at Walmart in the claims dept.
I would always have to double check items because some are sources from the US and use the US date format while the rest is in the normal format.
BB really needs to have what format was used or labels need to be printed for US sources pantry items.
Nah the middle one is the easiest to read.
Alright, then I guess change the way you read a clock too… My day to day use doesn’t include the year at all. Just mm/dd
Why change the way you read a clock? year/month/day hour:minute:second
You would never read a clock as minute:second:hour, which is analagous to how Americans phrase dates.
Lot of people say “half passed” or “quarter 'til” and optionally include the hour.
I don’t, but some people do.
The 12-hour system is similar to this issue
If it’s a file I want sorted by date the top is good. If I am talking about a date and spelling it out August the 9th of 2023 makes the most sense and seems natural, and if it’s a personal memo or date label on food I just use 08/09 with the zeros so I know it isn’t a fraction unless it’s frozen or shelf stable for long term storage where the year would be useful to know at which point it becomes 8/9/23
I thought everybody used different date formats based on need.
I swear, a lot of you would have no joy in life if you weren’t able to bitch about the stupidest shit.
If you it’s the stupidest shit then you never tried to figure out why you can’t log in to VPN for 2h just to realize password expired week ago but you looked at the date and thought you still have 3 weeks till expires
But small things are important!
Small things and stupid things are different
The last two are the same thing though
The last one is ambiguous because it could be either august ninth or september eigth.
DD/MM/YYYY is the best in my opinion
YYYY-MM-DD is better if you need to sort
If it weren’t so ingrained, I would be permanently using YYYY-MM-DD instead of DD/MM/YYYY.
Works great for east Asia, and it sorts!
I’d also like to advocate for using 24 time in speech.
See you at 21 tomorrow :)
I agree with this because if you were to say the whole thing verbally, you generally start with the day, the month then the year.
“It is the 9th of August in the year of our Lord 2023.”
We wouldn’t in America in most cases. I’d say it’s August 9th 2023. I honestly feel like this is such a dumb argument to have because it doesn’t matter except for communication with people who use other methods. Now metric vs imperial makes way more sense to me because the metric system is just so much easier for mathematical conversions.
In metric, one milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade—which is 1 percent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. An amount of hydrogen weighing the same amount has exactly one mole of atoms in it. Whereas in the American system, the answer to ‘How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon of water?’ is ‘Go fuck yourself,’ because you can’t directly relate any of those quantities.
09.08.2023 (dd/mm/yyyy) anybody?
ISO standards… unbelievable how many people don’t get it!
Unix time is the best format
ISO 8601 or nothing. Descending order of granularity, keep everything sorted as it should be!
I’ve said it once and I will say it again:
mkdir -p 2023/{January,February,March,April,May,June,July,August,Septembet,October,November,December}Warning: not POSIX
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Americans write the date the way we would say it. August 9th 2023.
Americans pick up weird habits and then insist that it’s the right way. How is August 9th any better than 9th of August when the 9th is a subunit of August and not the other way around?
Another good example is the use of the imperial system. I’ve heard Americans often declare that it’s a better system for manual use compared to the metric system. But the metric system has prefixes that differ consistently by 3 orders of magnitude, whereas the imperial system has rather arbitrary jumps between each successive unit. The metric system needs much less cognitive effort even for manual use.
I can understand that it’s a matter of habit for Americans. But it’s the lack of acceptance that there is a problem that leads to other problems like crashing a spacecraft onto Mars.
9th of August, 2023
Wait, you mean the last 2 are, in all fact, the same, exact, thing?
Yes.
That’s what kills me about people who rag on Americans.
We order our dates the way we say them, and we use a temperature system is a great way to describe feeling heat.
I’ve got no defense for imperial measurements beyond scooping up a cup of flour is easier than dumping it on a scale.
But people spend more energy shitting on the cultural norms of Americans than anyone else (especially Europeans) and then spend a lot of time telling us we have no culture.
Generally speaking you’re usually from 0 to 720 hours in a month: how many time in a year you have to remind people what month they are into vs. the single day?
Guy A: “Hey, what day is it?”
Guy B: “It’s Sunday, the 13th.”
Guy A: “Of…?” (gesturing to keep going)
Guy B: “Ah, right, we’re just 390 hours into August. You may have missed that.”
That’s in response to a poorly asked question.
"Hey what’s the date?
“August 13th”
