My friends and I still use TS3. The audio quality and voice activation is better than Discord’s, and the desktop app doesn’t take ten fucking gigabytes of RAM to run.
Good to hear ts3 is still rockin.
If you use discord, access with a web browser. No need to ever download discord the app
Nah bro that’s just the memory leaks, your supposed to force close and reopen it every so often so the OS cleans up after their shitty application
Memory is cheap nowadays, so that’s a feature /s
I bought the whole RAM, I’m gonna use the whole RAM
It seems many don’t remember why there was a ts2 mass extinction. It was because of the horrendous ts3 licensing.
Why the masses went to yet another closed system like discord I’ll never understand while being very satisfied with mumble/murmur.
The absolute largest group of players in any game stuck with Mumble. That would be The Goonswarm Federation in EvE Online. We have just over 25,000 people, and well over 100,000 characters in the Alliance. In fact, AFAIK, all of the major alliances have to use Mumble because it allows more than 100 people in a room
Revolt should be next in the cycle
Shit, that’s a real post. The whole account is just talking about how nobody uses TeamSpeak anymore.
Mumble is super popular with EVE Online players still, no? Because of the support for a large number of users in a single room
I remember moving to mumble from teams peak because it allowed pretty cool levels of configuration.
Back in the late 00s and early 00s I was doing world of warcraft raiding. I had the server setup to have one key for main raid and another to talk to only officers. Quite useful especially in bigger raids.
Also as I recall for any remotely large ts server you needed to pay. The self hosted one was always gimped. Mumble you could self host with no limits.
teams peak real
twins peak
Also supports positional audio which was very cool wheb first introduced for voip
Yep, Mumble is the most common, and there are still a couple groups that use Teamspeak.
Discord caps at 100 people in a call while I’ve seen good Mumble servers handle over 800.
For a group our size (we regularly have over 800 people on our mumble, peak is somewhere around the 1.3k mark if I remember correctly), it would also be very cost prohibitive to use TS
Can confirm. Goonswarm still needs Mumble because we have thousands of players that need to listen to the weekly fireside.
Once Discord embraces enshittification, we will meet again. :)
Ironic that traditionally Nitro makes things happen faster, probably in this case as well
What do you mean? Genuine question, I’m loosely familiar with the the issues with Discord having it’s growing issues with data and advertising but I assumed Nitro was the worst element.
The joke in my brain was that Nitro is fast tracking the enshittification of discord
Mumble better
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Isn’t mumble hot garbage? My planet side outfit memes on it whenever it gets brought up.
mumble is pretty good. I’ve been using it for a few years, has great client server support, no bullshit on either side of the fence there. Super minimal client, though my linux client has issues with leaking memory, easy enough fix though, kill it and restart, which takes 2 seconds.
has pretty good bot support, you really can’t ask for much more, a bit more support and community utilization would be nice though, it’s somewhat dead.
So far mumble has been the definition of “just works”
The real question is: How in the world did Ventrillo continue to exist after TeamSpeak came along?
Vent was an object lesson in hostile UX. It sounded like shit, changing any kind of setting (even basic things like individual volumes) was a a gymnastics routine, and mics constantly clipped despite settings.
Vent was super lightweight, and easy to use. It’s why it lasted so long.
I had completely forgotten about Ventrilo, Team Speak, and Mumble. This whole post is a blast from the past.
Yea last vent server I ran was like 10+ years ago now… maybe even longer.
A lot of WoW people used vent and so people just used what they were used to
Unpopular opinion, ventrilo was better than team speak. It didn’t sound like crap especially when you had good server codecs and it was extremely easy to use and lightweight.
I don’t think that’s unpopular at all, I only ever used vent in highschool and uni, some of the groups I ran with even went back to vent from TS becauae of the sound quality. It was simple and easy to use and pretty much everyone had it.
Vi sitter här i venten och spelar lite DotA…
it’s gonna be stuck in my head all day now
Where else are you going to suck balls… All day… Because you like it so much?
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Vi sitter här på venten och spelar lite DOTA
Past memory unlocked.
Ventrilo was the shit back then.
"Get off vent or get bent "
Blow it out your ass
Me, the mystery dude in the game server who doesn’t have a mic, doesn’t use any voice features, never text chats, but always shows up and plays.
Omg… he finally speaks
Oh, I still use Teamspeak! It’s very nice for small groups up to 32 people (after that one has to use the paid tiers). I do not use X though.
Maybe I’ll give Mumble a shot, so I can integrate it with Matrix/Synapse/Element.
Didn’t know mumble could work together with matrix but makes sense
Have to test it but guides suggest that it’s possible
would recommend trying out mumble, it’s pretty slick.
Does mumble integrate with Element?
There are mumble -> matrix bridges you can set up. It doesn’t integrate with element, it integrates with matrix, for which matrix is a client.
Those are text bridges though are they not?
no reason you couldn’t implement a voice bridge either, both have open communication standards. There’s existing bots/libs out there for similar things already. Probably wouldn’t even be all that hard to implement.
I didn’t try yet but there are guides.
Here I am self-hosting Mumble for friends & using Mumble at work. Old tech was built to actually be good on resources.
+1 for Mumble. I set up a load of Android PoC devices with a Mumble server and it’s honestly like having walkie-talkies that work over the Intertubes.
drop version 5 and people might start fucking using it again.
Mumble even though it’s literally dead, is a better platform.
Matrix and XMPP both support this shit also. This is literally a skill issue.
people will come back if the bloat/ad-trend of discord continues… hopefully?
nah I’ll just continue to mod my client until the death of it. If discord ever decides to ban mods, then most likely yeah I’ll move. Default discord is so fucking bloated and unusable.
✋ paying for discord nitro
👉👉 paying your favorite client mod dev
Are there modded clients for mobile?
Yes. Aliucord is stuck in the past BUT is running the NATIVE version of the app (not the shitty slow electron one).
Vendetta Manager, discontinued but there is a fork that works. Up to date with discord.
Shit, there are discord mods? Is there a list somewhere of popular mods/what do you recommend?
Didnt know discord could be modded. Do you have any privacy enhancing mods you’d recommend?
No joke last time I launched team speak was scary lmao. I didn’t have my server anymore so my buddies and I joined a random one. As we were chilling and gaming random people joined in and called us the n word and then left over the course of our session lol definitely felt like a 360 CoD lobby
I refuse to use discord, it is basically malware. Selfhosting is the only way, and TS3 works great for that.
how is discord malware?
Tricks you into believing discord is composed of “servers” when it is in fact all centralized under discord’s direct control. Tricks you into believing private messages are private when they are in fact not encrypted at all. Discord’s business itself is shady
They’re called direct messages, not private messages. They’re not tricking anyone into thinking anything lmao
No, but the entire point of renaming Private Messages to Direct Messages was exclusively so people would have the mindset you do.
Umm… People have been using the phrase “Direct message (DM) me” since forever in the game and online comms world. Private message wasn’t a concept until after DMs were later encrypted. And we always knew, that if we didn’t control the servers, even encrypted, those messages were subject the server operators.
Your logic is giving me the impression that you’re younger and didn’t go through these experiences.
Actually I am not younger, DM’s had always been Private Messages to me up until Facebook/MySpace and more people began flocking to the internet.
Lol wut, they never claimed servers were independently controlled. Maybe you just didn’t look into what you were signing up for.
When you go use different servers on Minecraft realms are you under any impression those are not controlled by Microsoft?
When you choose a different server on World of Warcraft do you think it’s a non-blizzard server?..
Like just because you put yourself into a state of bad false assumptions didn’t mean they tried to trick you. People have been saying this about discord from the beginning you just never cared to look.
Did you actually think this or are you just inventing a person in your mind that this has happened to? Lol
The “servers” are actually called “guilds” in the API.
Servers are just a marketing term
They’re called servers in the UI though. Also, confusingly, there is a new feature coming called guilds.
Huge RAM usage, wierd crashes, causes random lag in games, constant enshittification on-going. No thanks.
That’s not malware, that’s just a bad product
hyperbole, ever heard about it?
Can you use it in a sentence?
“Discord is bad product, hyperbolically said, it works like a malware.”
I am sorry but I was not paying attention, could you repeat that?
Isn’t TeamSpeak proprietary though?
Yes, but free
If you can’t audit the source code of the program, how do you know if TeamSpeak isn’t malware?
Not everything has to be foss, it is in company’s best interest to not make it as malware. In last 20 years that I have had TS installed on my server and client, have I had it act like malware. Discord in the other hand has instantly caused issues. Not saying that TS3 doesn’t have had bugs, ofc it has had.
If you can trust them not to do anything bad then they can trust you with the source
So you’re just trusting them to not do anything bad?
I know that discord is doing bad shit, so yes.
How often you read the source codes of your tool?
I may not read the source code of every tool I use, but even if the average user doesn’t read the source code, having it available for inspection by others in the community increases security, trust, and overall software quality. All a user really has to do is look at the license of the software they use, typically a GPL or similar license, and consider how reputable it is. Not only that, but if you’re on Linux already, you can just get most of the software from your distro’s repositories.
Still hosting TS as the primary place my friends record things because of the audio quality and especially reliability compared to Discord, but not so much for hangouts anymore. Got Mumble in the back pocket in case the licensing goes to crap though
