• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    6 months ago

    I’m with the Gnome team here.

    Sure, “point” releases with Gnome are generally only bug fixes, and Canonical likes that because they just merge those changes without doing much, if any, testing.

    But it’s also worth mentioning that:

    • Gnome is extremely pro-wayland. They’ve suggested it as default for non-nvidia hardware since 2016. Of course they’re going to rush explicit sync support out, and they’ve done a good job getting it ready in a short space of time. What, are they just supposed to wait until September/October, just for the benefit of Canonical? Fuck no.

    • This was literally never an agreement in the first place.

    • This is a bugfix, in that it fixes the flickering issues with Nvidia hardware. So even if there was an agreement, I wouldn’t consider it broken, really.

    • There are distros other than Ubuntu, and I imagine they want this fix ASAP.

    • Gnome is run by Gnome devs. Not by Canonical. If they don’t like it, fork it or go back to Unity or something. It’s not like Canonical doesn’t have the money.

    I fear people will interpret this story as “ugh gnome devs being gnome devs!”, like they always do. But as usual, there’s a reason for Gnome making this choice, and in this case they’re unquestionably correct, IMO.

    • woelkchen@lemmy.world
      1·
      5 months ago

      What, are they just supposed to wait until September/October, just for the benefit of Canonical? Fuck no.

      Or Nvidia could just release non-broken drivers. The fault is buggy/incomplete Wayland support in the NVidia driver.

  • macniel@feddit.de
    1·
    6 months ago

    Well fuck Canonical.

    But second, if this explicit sync fixes flickering… Then it’s a Bugfix thus a minor patch, no?

    So to iterate on point 1: fuck Canonical.

  • Hector@lemmy.ca
    1·
    6 months ago

    A much needed feature gets released quicker than usual for the benefit of users and they complain about broken faith? They could have just delayed the release until they tested it thoroughly. Using that kind of wording makes me feel they’re just in for the drama.

  • HumanPenguin@feddit.ukEnglish
    1·
    6 months ago

    As gnome shell and ubuntu. Have nio such good faith agreement.

    And thisbis just a process ubuntu has to reduce its own work load.

    Who really cares. Ubuntu can include and reject any software they choose.

    Ubuntu users can also add and take what ever risks they choose.

    And gnomeshell can choose to change there releases and software as they choose.

    This os the cost of free as in speach software. If you are need 3rd parties to make your software work. You have to accept they have the same freedoms you insist on.

    Personally i prefer that and the option to use older versions if thing go wrong. Then a privrate for profit ccompany making the same choices with less freedom for me.

  • LeFantome@programming.dev
    1·
    6 months ago

    I want everybody to get this stuff as soon as possible but, in this case, I agree with Ubuntu.

    They do not support Wayland on NVIDIA in 24.04 at all. So, this cannot be a bug fix. It has been worked on for a long time. It is a new feature.