What followed was a wave of shooting and arson attacks across 11 Palestinian villages in which a dozen homes and more than 100 cars were torched, thousands of animals were slaughtered, four people were shot dead and scores of others were seriously wounded.

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    Yeah, I just finished reading and I don’t understand why the world is not acting. Why can Israel act with impunity. The Western nations have clearly shown that the rules are different for non-white people and that their lives are not as valuable. The hypocrisy is shameful. These are people with dreams and hopes just like us. The language used by the government, describing Palestinians as vermin and animals emboldens the settlers. There seem to be few repercussions for killing a Palestinian, if any. Israel keeps saying ups this was a mistake and ups we bulldozed entire villages and ups, a mass grave. They say they will investigate but when they do, they find no wrong doing or just a misdemeanour or an error. The whole situation is a clusterfuck, any other country would be sanctioned at the least, and ostracised. And why are the other Arab nations not helping Palestine more? I understand the situation is complicated, but there are many diplomatic measures to put pressure on Israel without getting involved in the fighting.

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      This is exactly what pisses me off about all of this… it’s 2024, we see live footage on various platforms, and the “leaders” make eurovision-like decisions all over the past few months.

      It’s not 1945 where they used to make decisions based on hearsay, its 2024 ffs, with live footage.

      They spread fakenews about beheaded babies without any proof and justified the killings. But the footage that clearly shows acts of crime isn’t remotely considered to stop this cruelty.

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      There’s multiple reasons:

      • Zionists have made it a priority to make sure they have their people / sympathisers in high places in politics and media. Anyone who even hints at considering calling Palestinians people gets pushed out.
      • Israel is a laboratory for ‘policing’, anti-terrorism and surveillance tactics. This technology and know-how is indispensable for both the ‘democracies’ in the West and dictatorships, including Arab dictatorships that pay lip service to the Palestinian cause, but don’t actually do anything. If crowd control tactics work on Palestinians, they work on leftie protestors and civil rights movements in the West and popular democratic movements in authoritarian regimes.
      • people don’t want to be called anti-semites (especially in Europe, where every country has a horrific history with that), which is why they’ve been trying very hard to conflate Zionism with Jewishness.
      • there’s also a global right-wing nationalism on the rise, where people like Modi, Orban, Trump, Netanyahu, … sort of espouse the same rhetoric that used to be limited to white supremacy, but it’s just applied to their ethnicity/race/religious group. The neo-nazis are still anti-semites, but they see Israel as the place they can ship all the Jews to when the time comes. Israel’s actions making Jews outside of Israel a target for retaliation plays into that as well.
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        So trump can make it wayyyy better/s

        Third party hasn’t been remotely close to having a chance in recent history, so this shitty anti-thought is just handing the reins to trump, who will very obviously make it way worse. But then again that’s what you want, isn’t it linker?

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          It’s because of this Pavlovian BUT TRUMP reaction that israel is committing Genocide right now.

          Than you for proving my point.

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            You can be damn sure if Biden’s poll numbers dropped to 20% he’d pivot so fast and the media would laud that as courage.

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            My link is literally Trump talking about Israel and Palestine. It isn’t a “but Trump is bad” article, it’s directly relevant to this issue.

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              The israeli Post pretending that Biden isn’t currently having pro Palestine protesters brutally beaten up by the cops is conveniently not highlighted

              Both of them would do what Biden is doing right now.

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                The president does not control the police nor campus police or campus administration. It would be a hell of a lot easier across the board if they did.

                Can you prove that the Biden administration is behind the persecution of the protestors, specifically, and not individual police departments? Trump sounds like he would want to order the national guard or military to do this.

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                  I have no direct evidence, but it’s not at all far-fetched. The Obama administration set up a coordinated effort to share intelligence and plan tactics for the crackdown on Occupy Wall Street across the FBI, state and local police forces, and the banks themselves. The uniformity and brutality of the response to the university anti-genocide protests is… curious, at least.

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                  it’s absolutely hillarious that you require concrete evidence of actions Biden doing something yet Trump only has to say words. The Democrats used the police violence! They pumped rubber bullets into peaceful protesters like no tomorrow! Biden condoned the police violence and praised it. Painting all protesters as a violent mob. Genocide Joe went full fascist mode during the demonstrations and we’re somehow still in pretend land.

                  Biden condemns campus protest violence: No ‘right to cause chaos’

                  Furthermore the Democrats were literally bribed by the israelis to call in the police on the protesters to violently shut them down. Many of the Zionists bribing the Democrats are the exact same people that bribe Republicans.

                  American business leaders and billionaires set up a Whatsapp group to shape public opinion on Israel’s war in Gaza and urged New York City’s mayor to use police to disperse a pro-Palestinian protest at Columbia University.

                  American business leaders and billionaires set up a Whatsapp group to shape public opinion on Israel’s war in Gaza and urged New York City’s mayor to use police to disperse a pro-Palestinian protest at Columbia University.

                  The group was set up on 12 October, days after Hamas’s surprise attack on southern Israel, to “change the narrative” on Israel, including by conveying “the atrocities committed by Hamas… to all Americans”.

                  Among the business leaders in the group were the CEO of Starbucks, Howard Schultz, Dell CEO and founder Michael Dell, and Joshua Kushner, a financier and brother to Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner.

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                    You’re confusing a lot of groups together here. Trying to influence the NYC mayor and public opinion is very different from bribing Democrats as a whole. IIRC the mayor is quite right wing too, like a Manchin type.

                    There’s also a significant difference here – Trump is saying what he would do. You’re claiming what Biden has already done, and your evidence is a public statement that he made – which don’t get me wrong, was a shitty one to make. You haven’t proved though that Biden or Democrats as a whole told the police to do that and shoot with rubber bullets and painted them all as violent. In your own link, Biden makes a very clear differentiation between peaceful and violent protest, and he says the former is a bedrock American principle. Your own link contradicts what you’re describing and doesn’t support your claims. It says blatantly that Biden won’t use the national guard, which is the actual enforcing power that the president has.

                    Come on, there’s plenty to criticize Biden and Democrats on with Israel without making leaps and lumping everyone together. I have respect for a lot of the points and arguments you’ve made in the past, but this isn’t it. This is just sensationalism not grounded in reality.

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              And it’s going to continue going on because both sides are controlled by israel.

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                Not entirely. There’s a lot of pro Israel money but a shift in public perception may well shift the political calculus

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                  Biden has been trying to throw his election chances for the past 7 months. And the Republican side isn’t shifting much to begin with they love killing brown people. At this point the only thing that will shift is how hard Biden tries to gaslight people that he is wagging his finger at Netanyahu.