• Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Sat internet is so overhyped. As it’s limited by physics cell towers will always outperform them. Simple as that.

    • cities - cables and 5g
    • country side - 4g and cables in high concentration areas
    • middle of nowhere or war zones - low orbit sats.

    This is purely a security issue not a consumer one.

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        5 months ago

        Good luck? Most of the world is already there. I had 3g in deep jungles of Thailand last weekend and even in the most remote places in China have wire these days.

        The main point is that sat is limited by physics so cell towers and wire are upgrades over sat so it makes much more sense to start with better technology now as we’ll never need less connection.

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            If we can figure out how to put them on the bottom of the ocean and pipelines over just about any terrain, I think we can figure this out

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                5 months ago

                Because building space ports and rocket launches have 0 impact as well.

                But you acknowledge this, so what’s your point? Why pay a techno billionaire when we can publicly fund cables way cheaper and more friendly?

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                    5 months ago

                    It’s has its place for sure.

                    But the physics are far more against satalite.

                    But the reason I don’t believe in large scale satalite systems for consumers is because they’re disposable. They all fall down or contribute to the growing space junk problem.

                    So it’s not really any better at the end of the day than just burying a fibre cable for 40 years.

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                    How are satellites better if they will never be faster? Do we just accept life in 300ms latency? We will always need better communication so it makes no sense to invest into inferior product even if it’s more accessible currently.

                    Unless quantum communication becomes real thing nothing will match fiber and cell towers in the foreseeable future.

                    Sat is a fringe technology for war and extreme remote areas, everything else is already solved.

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      5 months ago

      Infrastructure can be a real problem in some places.

      I’m currently on a mountain and since they upgraded to a hybrid satellite/cable system the speeds have skyrocketed. Laying cable/towers is just not viable, especially with dense rock peaks blocking line of sight.

      Also I have coworkers in Nigeria who lose internet multiple times a day (and often don’t have the bandwidth for a video call) but most of them have bitten the bullet and paid the high up-front cost to get starlink at home. And now can do HD video calls with zero interruption (unless they have power issues, but that’s a whole other thing).

      So I think there’s a lot of use-cases for sattelite, especially for people who aren’t considered worth the investment in non-sattelite infrastructure.

      It’s just unfortunate that yeah, space junk is going to one day (suddenly) be a massive problem.

      Edit: ah I may have replied to the wrong comment