**EDIT: GO DM MODS OF YOUR FAVORITE SUBREDDITS AND POLITELY ASK ABOUT MIGRATION!: something as simple as "Hey, I love this community but I no longer use reddit, will you guys be making a community on Kbin or other alternatives? Let me know please, thanks." will work!! We need more voices encouraging migration!**...
Incoming “this is always gonna happen”, “i’ve predict this” and then the crowd who criticise them for bowing down to Reddit to keep their “unpaid job” is suddenly very silent.
Those are not contradictory positions. In my opinion, we all did know this was going to happen. And also, any mods that rolled over to continue doing an unpaid job just to retain some form of power are bitches.
Being forcibly removed was the best way to go out, I respect it.
Some communities do serve an important support network for many people (things like places for closeted LGBT+ people to express themselves when they live in anti-LGBT+ areas, etc). They’re sometimes more than just a place to get dopamine hit while bored at work.
any mods that rolled over to continue doing an unpaid job just to retain some form of power are bitches.
Personally, I don’t believe that POV is fair. As someone who, with a small group of friends, started a sub that has grown to 100k people and is the most active internet community for a niche gaming segment - i personally think it’s not that easy to judge. I have not been active on my sub in years, and I leave the job up to the new guard, but I can completely respect the decision to want to keep something you invested in building alive and a positive influence in the area it affects. It’s easy to armchair QB stuff like this and judge others decisions, but to just generalize and say “better to die than to think something else is better in the bigger picture” is a bit of a cop out imo.
It’s easy to judge for anyone with principles. I would have officially moved the community before shutting down the reddit community or being forcibly removed from it.
Anyone that feigned outrage or protest that stays is a hypocrite.
I mean, you’re not countering anything. Explain the nuance and how you maintain those principles that contradict each other and are not an absolute fucking hypocrite then.
Because if you’re a mod and you say, I don’t really care that much about this issue, my sub is going to keep running. Cool, that checks out logically. If you say, I really care about this issue, I’m going to protest it, but not with any real consequences. Then you are a fucking bitch. You’d rather be subservient to a company that doesn’t respect mods or it’s users than give up any bit of power or work established while simultaneously pretending to care as long as it doesn’t impact you then you’re a hypocritical bitch.
I’d say it’s actually a fairly black and white situation considering continuing to use Reddit is proving spez exactly right while adding more free value to them for their IPO.
I would do everything in my power to move over to a different community and not give them another click ever again that they can try and monetize. I’d understand if these were paid positions but they’re not, there’s no reason to stay. If the communities end up going poorly afterward that is on Reddit and what they deserve.
If you are willing to do an unpaid job, for a company that has essentially spit in your face, than you have lower standards than me.
And if you’re doing it just because you’re afraid to let go of whatever pathetic little power you have established there, then your ideals don’t align with mine, and I see you as a bitch.
And if you’re doing it just because you’re afraid to let go of whatever pathetic little power you have established there, then your ideals don’t align with mine, and I see you as a bitch.
Agreeing with them being a bitch doesn’t make them less of a bitch.
I wouldn’t say boo if everyone hadn’t been so unanimously Gung ho two weeks ago or whatever, but watching those people falter THE SECOND their power is threatened after talking all that good shit, yeah they “bitched out.”
For me, I respect the hell out of the mods that went down swinging, and for the ones that are not willing to burn it all down or just walk away I can definitely empathize with how they might be feeling.
Personally it has been heartbreaking to completely shut out all of the communities I was a small part of, and it must be infinitely worse for the ones that have put in all the effort.
Incoming “this is always gonna happen”, “i’ve predict this” and then the crowd who criticise them for bowing down to Reddit to keep their “unpaid job” is suddenly very silent.
Those are not contradictory positions. In my opinion, we all did know this was going to happen. And also, any mods that rolled over to continue doing an unpaid job just to retain some form of power are bitches.
Being forcibly removed was the best way to go out, I respect it.
Some communities do serve an important support network for many people (things like places for closeted LGBT+ people to express themselves when they live in anti-LGBT+ areas, etc). They’re sometimes more than just a place to get dopamine hit while bored at work.
Personally, I don’t believe that POV is fair. As someone who, with a small group of friends, started a sub that has grown to 100k people and is the most active internet community for a niche gaming segment - i personally think it’s not that easy to judge. I have not been active on my sub in years, and I leave the job up to the new guard, but I can completely respect the decision to want to keep something you invested in building alive and a positive influence in the area it affects. It’s easy to armchair QB stuff like this and judge others decisions, but to just generalize and say “better to die than to think something else is better in the bigger picture” is a bit of a cop out imo.
It’s easy to judge for anyone with principles. I would have officially moved the community before shutting down the reddit community or being forcibly removed from it.
Anyone that feigned outrage or protest that stays is a hypocrite.
hard disagree. This isn’t black and white, you can do some of both and that is not wrong or unprincipled. Thinking otherwise is just simple minded.
I mean, you’re not countering anything. Explain the nuance and how you maintain those principles that contradict each other and are not an absolute fucking hypocrite then.
Because if you’re a mod and you say, I don’t really care that much about this issue, my sub is going to keep running. Cool, that checks out logically. If you say, I really care about this issue, I’m going to protest it, but not with any real consequences. Then you are a fucking bitch. You’d rather be subservient to a company that doesn’t respect mods or it’s users than give up any bit of power or work established while simultaneously pretending to care as long as it doesn’t impact you then you’re a hypocritical bitch.
I’d say it’s actually a fairly black and white situation considering continuing to use Reddit is proving spez exactly right while adding more free value to them for their IPO.
I would do everything in my power to move over to a different community and not give them another click ever again that they can try and monetize. I’d understand if these were paid positions but they’re not, there’s no reason to stay. If the communities end up going poorly afterward that is on Reddit and what they deserve.
Sincerely disagree about that.
If you are willing to do an unpaid job, for a company that has essentially spit in your face, than you have lower standards than me.
And if you’re doing it just because you’re afraid to let go of whatever pathetic little power you have established there, then your ideals don’t align with mine, and I see you as a bitch.
Well, the problem is on you then.
Agreeing with them being a bitch doesn’t make them less of a bitch.
I wouldn’t say boo if everyone hadn’t been so unanimously Gung ho two weeks ago or whatever, but watching those people falter THE SECOND their power is threatened after talking all that good shit, yeah they “bitched out.”
For me, I respect the hell out of the mods that went down swinging, and for the ones that are not willing to burn it all down or just walk away I can definitely empathize with how they might be feeling.
Personally it has been heartbreaking to completely shut out all of the communities I was a small part of, and it must be infinitely worse for the ones that have put in all the effort.