• Sorchist@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    Does anybody have any idea how to evaluate Israel’s claim that it wasn’t them, that it was a Palestinian rocket towards Israel which went wrong and hit the hospital?

    Other than just assuming that whatever side you don’t like is lying?

    I honestly don’t have a heuristic to evaluate that other than “the side I trust less must be lying about it”

    And I’d like a better way to find out the truth than that

    • AdeptusPrimaris@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      11 months ago

      The Anglican community and Anglican owners of the hospital and Doctors without Borders operating in Gaza have denied Israel’s claim. They reiterated that it was an Israeli attack on the hospital

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        11 months ago

        Does that help? As an appeal to authority, I’m not convinced. Anglicans aren’t known for much more than constant infighting, definitely not for missile strike origin identification.

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        11 months ago

        That could be something. Give they any reason, point to any evidence? I’d like to see how they come to their conclusion.

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        11 months ago

        They would have no way to know, so that’s not really any evidence at all either way.

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      11 months ago

      Are you surprised that the state that shamelessly announced it has cut off food, water, and electricity on 2.5 million people, of which more than 1 million are children, has bombed a hospital? 9 days without a drop of water. The state that bombed the corridors of international humanitarian aid?

      There’s many videos posted on telegram and Twitter comparing the sound of the missile from footage with the sound from US made JDAM missile.

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      11 months ago

      Israel also claimed Hamas beheaded 40 people and they were exposed for their lie, Israel is lying, they bombed the hospital.

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      11 months ago

      Yeah, there is a longer video floating around Twitter that shows the barrage being fired, followed by an something midair, then a small explosion at the hospital followed by a bigger one.

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        11 months ago

        I would particularly advice against trusting videos circulating on Twitter as a source for anything at all in this conflict. It seems to be a complete mess.

        The best thing to do is probably to wait for experts to do their job, and for reputable news outlets to report on it.

        Until then, keep in mind that we’re in a position where both explanations are plausible. Both sides are targeting civilians. Who is to blame for this specific attack doesn’t change the fact that both parties to the conflict are awful, and that civilians pay the cost.

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          11 months ago

          I mean, one side targets civilians and sees civilian casualties as achievements. Another side targets military infrastructure located inside civilian territory, and sees civilian casualties as collateral damage. Saying both sides are the same is either ignorance, or malicious misinformation.

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            11 months ago

            I’m sure the victims and their families will be pleased to hear that they were just collateral damage!

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      11 months ago

      The only way to confirm is to find search the wreckage.

      The remains would tell you what hit the hospital.