Ulrich

I mean isn’t that at least some extent technically true to a level.

It’s completely true. That’s why a lot of people don’t seed. And why your ISP won’t bother you if you don’t.

I want to be clear that I’m commenting solely on the expectation of a swifter response from leadership in the original email thread and not on Marcan’s decision to step down, which I can’t be the judge of.

One was a direct result of the other. You can’t separate them.

they might try to resolve things in private first (seems to be the case)

Neither of them have the authority to resolve it in private and it was clear by the third message that there would be no resolution between them.

they might want to chime in when people have calmed down

They didn’t calm down, it was plain to see that things were only becoming more and more heated until the conversation reached a breaking point.

Marcan asked Linus to come in and make an authoritative statement and end the bickering and he did not. Hector interpreted that as Linus being apathetic (which is a rational position given the time that had passed). I’m not going to try and judge Linus, I don’t know what was going on in his life at the time, but it was, as Hector stated, a failure of leadership regardless.

So no, it’s not several months; it’s barely one month

How many months should he have waited for an authoritative response?

I don’t agree with Hector’s response either but that has nothing to do with the fact that Linus left them alone for months to sort out between themselves when he could have simply stepped in and ended it.

it turns out that the reaction was pretty clear not “no reaction”. That’s the reason this thread we’re talking in exists.

This thread? The one that appeared weeks after he already quit? Not helpful.

Any other interpretations are wrong

Yes that’s what I said.

which you solely deem correct?

I do not “deem” or “dictate” anything. It is simply reality.

Yes you’re correct. I’ll update that.

Because the “quick note” you dropped is wrong. There’s no defensible position where his reaction can reasonably be interpreted as anything else.

before it’s even become apparent what the reaction to Cristoph Hellwig’s behavior would be

It was very clear that the reaction was going to be no reaction. That’s the point. Several months later is not “mid-discussion”.

Because you haven’t approached the situation with the mindset of a careless greedy fuck.

He was using charged language and ultimately wrote a long rant about failed leadership and resigned from the project he founded as a result. I don’t know how you can possibly interpret that any other way.

The part where I exclusively stated facts is opinionated?

Yes but that clearly was not happening. And now they lost a contributor for no reason.

Someone submitted some code to the Linux kernel. One of the maintainers repeatedly denied it for no reason other than it contained code that is not C. A different contributor became very angry, lashed out publicly on social media, accused the maintainer of sabotaging R4L for no technical reason, then removed themselves from the project. They were also the founder of Asahi Linux and resigned from that as well.

It’s nothing to do with Rust, specifically.

Moreso so that they can get their own 30% cut.

I said absolutely nothing to indicate that I felt that way so I don’t know WTF you’re on about.

I know what a Commodore 64 is, brother. And you can ask all you want where to find that information. And I can keep telling you I don’t know.

I assume this means free for local use? Not any kind of backups?

I don’t know where to find that information. I’ve just seen it running.

You conveniently skipped the part

I didn’t skip anything. The solutions I listed support all of that, with the possible exception of running on old shit which…why is that even remotely relevant?

you very much can not run mastodon server on a Commodore 64.

You absolutely can. There’s an entire community dedicated to running Mastodon servers on old hardware.

Email has been a thing since the 1970s and there’s a reason why it’s still going strong.

Is it ignorant old farts refusing to embrace new technology?

Things like XMPP has been around for a good while and there’s a reason why they’re not even close of overtaking email as a primary communication technology around.

Because it came around after email and all the old farts were too committed to it to learn something new? Is it because tech oligarchs learned from their lessons and embraced, extended, exploited, and abandoned open standards? What is the reason? You tell me.

email is still working just fine and majority of the hot stuff which is around right now has faded to the history.

It doesn’t work “just fine”, it’s fucking awful. Outside of trying to host it, just using it is a nightmare. Trying to find any information is a nightmare because there’s no common communication thread, and the emails are chock full of unnecessary bloat, and everyone has a fucking signature that’s a mile long and full of giant images. You can’t send videos. There’s a bunch of tracking features built into it. It’s insecure. Like, the list goes on…

Because it’s universal, it works, it’s multi-platform, device agnostic and it’s simple to use user side. Nothing else available really fits that criteria.

I already listed a handful of other platforms that check all those same things without being a pain in the ass to host, being sucky to use, or requiring approval from your ISP.

XMPP could work for it, but nobody really uses it anymore and to be honest the standard is ugly as hell to implement.

Uglier than email? Nah.

it would again only be available from said app(unless you do use something like NTFY)

Yes, NTFY is another example I already gave.

which would generally be locked down to a device

No it’s not.

so if its already being stored for accounts, might as well use it for notifications

It shouldn’t be used for accounts. That was my entire point. I host a dozen services and half of them no one else can use because the software mandates email verification, which I can’t use because my ISP doesn’t think I should be allowed to for some reason.

So…use a different browser?