Lack of cultural integration, homophobia, sexism, racism, religion, lack of local training and development, lack of capital investment, high housing costs, poor housing quality, wage suppression, increasing density of the country, crime, making places less desirable and more crime ridden.

But no one ever wants to talk about anything that isn’t short term averages.

I haven’t got an issue with immigration as a concept or necessarily as an average.

But there is a reason no one complains about first, second, third generation Australians coming to their country not learning the language, not integrating, committing crimes and no treating women right. A lot of people on the left live in outright denial about immigration.

Sure keep the upper class happy by keeping wages down and house prices high. Only costs you money, safety and community.

Immigration is lost in the short term averages at the least. It needs breaking down and calculating out over lifetimes.

But that still doesn’t excuse anybody flushing the rule of law down the toilet.

Did i say it did?

People obviously care note about immigration than that. That’s how high of a priority it is I guess.

I guess this just goes to show what everyone is saying.

The left is shooting themselves in the foot. People care about immigration and the left won’t solve it. So they lose power, that’s democracy in action.

If the left want wants they need to listen to the concerns of the people.

I was thinking about the US lately. Can’t remember why exactly maybe some friends popped up on my Facebook.

But I decided it actually wouldn’t be that bad of a place to live. If it wasn’t for the toxic work culture.

If they worked normal hours and had 20+ holidays it would be alright. Other shit annoy me and you would have to make sure you live in the nice areas but I could live there and enjoy it. But the work culture is an absolute no go. Wish they were like the Aussie. Show up do hard day of work fuck off for some beers. If the surfs good call in sick and end up seeing your boss in the line up. Work hard for a few months then decide fuck it and go to Bali for a weekend accidentally stay there for two months then decide you need to go back to work because travelling is too much effort walk into a job 1 week after landing home.

I’m left leaning thanks.

But free speech is exceptionally important.

Most people that are for lower immigration aren’t anti all immigration.

People usually want lower numbers, and more educated immigrants.

You can be tolerant of intolerance. But its got to be about homophobia, sexism, threats of violence, and hatred of the status quo. But it only works if a minority is doing it.

The problem is the same all over Europe people are unhappy with immigration from MENA.

None of the centre or left parties will deal with it, except in Denmark and Poland which coincidentally have seen lower votes for far right parties. But that’s probably unrelated right.

So yea. Let’s decide who should be in power and what they think of is right goes and ban anyone that thinks differently.

Capitalism working as intended.

Supply and demand. In this case means higher wages.

And no, the hypothetical of the robot skyscrapers is not “meaningless.”

It’s not meaningless in itself. Its meaningless to the conversation. It’s literally a hypothetical you invented for no reason. You’re just rambling.

Are you actually trying to claim that if the population was much smaller than it is today total resource use across the globe would be the same?

Because if not my point stands.

A lot of people think rockets can be very profitable. Its just a long term bet and you lack imagination. I would need to check but I’m pretty certain spacex is profitable.

Those other companies are still in R and D.

The only billionaire I know of that is launching rockets is Elon Musk.

That’s just evidence that capitalism is efficient. Because SpaceX has revolutionised space travel making the only reusable rocket doing something all the government agencies said was impossible. NASAs new unbuilt rocket is using tech from the 1970 that they are going to throe away into the ocean on every launch.

The rest you say is meaningless. How you expect this robotic skyscrapers to be built? Some MIT masters project or some capitalist experiment?

There has been efficiency gains throughout. Capitalism is amazing for that, far better than other systems.

The problem is too many people. If standard of living is to increase then the resource requirement is due to massive unsustainable population growth.

That and the fact the public hate externalities and don’t want them used at all never mind aggressively.

They always are and they know it.

Doesn’t matter at that level it’s all part of the game.

Melbourne is a city of tryhards

The view is anyone that can’t get sex is worthless. It’s a harsh truth that people don’t like to admit.

People love to use the fact that people aren’t get sex against them.

The whole treatment of incels seems hypocritical to me tbh. Like they make some good points. But society can’t accept nuance, they can’t accept that someone that don’t like might be right about something’s.

I don’t see how that goes against anything I have said? That just supports what I said if anything.

I don’t like guy butts.

I feel like I stop playing with boobs when I get told “okay that’s enough”.

But it there was two of me playing with boobs it would go on a lot longer.

How the fuck they get anything done then?

There is a shit load of gold out their in minute concentrations