Me: oh boy i cant wait to unify against all the republican jerks that have been messing stuff up for literally my whole life
Harris: i promise to put a republican on my cabinet have you met my friend liz
Me: oh boy i can’t wait to die
That’s a really complicated question that’s going to depend on what he’s trying to do, but it’s never going to be any one thing, it’s going to be a combination of using legislative procedure and longshot lawsuits to slow things down where we can, having conversations with our families and neighbors about how Trump is fucking up and driving Trump’s popularity down, and some amount of finding workarounds for social problems that don’t require government involvement (e.g. private abortion funds, mutual aid networks, etc).
We didn’t let the USSR decide our troop deployments for us, and we didn’t tell everybody what a great guy Stalin was to sell war bonds. When it comes to potential voters, I agree with you we can’t be picky (like, if they’ve got a problematic stance on trans people or women or people receiving welfare or whatever I’ll try to politely and succinctly tell them why what they’re saying hurts to hear and then steer the conversation back to the many many things we do agree on), but when it comes to the people we put on stages, the people we elect, and the people who advise elected officials on policy and campaigns the Manchins and Kinzingers and Cheneys of the world are poison who will only lose us votes.
Beyond the brain drain, the school to prison pipeline is going to get opened wide, they’re going to jam as many cops into public schools as they can and have them going law and order on kids over stupid shit
I wonder if Biden is happy for his “friend”
It’s a big tent, the people in charge of the party right now suck but there are lots of good lawmakers and staffers in there
with the Tulsi Gabbards switching to red and the Adam Kinzingers switching to blue
Ugh, a future of having to choose between Russian agents and fucking tea partiers sounds bleak as hell, we’ve gotta be able to do better than that
Fair points, maybe I could have put this better. I’m not saying he won’t try, I’m saying we shouldn’t make it easy for him by conceding that he’ll actually be able to succeed.
I mean, tens of thousands (sometimes hundreds of thousands) of people are deported from the country every year already, whether Democrat or Republican presidents are in office,
Sure, I agree that the Democratic party’s collaboration with fascism has been awful. No time like the present to fight for a change in what we’ve been doing.
it’s hard to say what would happen under Trump.
We can make some pretty good guesses about what Republicans will attempt to do. Nothing’s guaranteed but it virtually inevitable they will try to make the situation worse.
From 2016 to 2020 they actually fell to a low of 27k for at least a little bit.
Feels like you’re cherry picking a bit here, but yeah - general Republican antipathy towards bureaucracies and bureaucratic administration sometimes makes them bad at being able to follow through on their plans to hurt people and that’s probably something we can try to take advantage of.
Trump is wrong a lot and lies a lot, I don’t believe anything he says and you shouldn’t either
Besides, acting like there is going to be another election (e.g. talking to likeminded people and trying to organize political coalitions) will prepare us better to deal with the alternative scenarios
Thanks, good luck to you and your family too. Wherever you go, talk to your neighbors and lawmakers, that’s the only way we can make and maintain societies worth living in.
There will be some token deportations of undocumented immigrants that were going to be deported anyways,
Fuck that bullshit, this makes as much sense as saying “well, there probably will be some summary executions of people charged with crimes, but they were gonna be found guilty anyway”.
The only thing working in our favor is Trump’s general incompetence and chaotic headspace, he’s his own biggest enemy sometimes.
He’s got fascist toadies who are very intent on this in his administration who will keep him organized and focused. What we have in our favor is hundreds of millions of Americans who think xenophobia is idiotic hateful bullshit.
My family is emigrating because we will not be taking that risk.
Honestly, good for you, but you can’t blame the people who don’t have that option for trying to come up with some sort of strategy to resist American fascism. I’m not saying Trump won’t be bad, I’m saying here’s what we might be able to throw at him. No idea if it will be effective, but I will not go quietly.
I simply refuse to believe America is done
I honestly have no idea whether it is or not, but I don’t see any way that giving into hopeless despair and giving up helps us, so I’m going to operate under the assumption that it’s not. If nothing else, let’s make the fascists fight every single step of the way by throwing every inconvenience we can at them.
Speaking of which - Dems still have enough Senate seats to filibuster, right?
I think this is right, but I would add there’s a chance this all ends up being for show and BlackRock makes some public show of fealty to the Trumpists that makes them look powerful and gets BlackRock some government contracts down the line. Like, hypocrisy is no barrier for the right wing, they’re fully capable of writing a whole novel about (e.g.) how we must destroy Google and then turning around and buying a bunch of shit from them.
Talking about plans to commit crimes on public forums is basically just doing the cops work for them
I’m not sure how much this explains the Latino vote, but I heard some pundit yesterday make a halfway decent point about how a $1 increase hits harder when you live in a rural area where wages tend to be lower to begin with.
the garbage homeland
Puerto Rico is not garbage
I wonder how many of these are second generation immigrants. I’m very much generalizing here, but they can frequently be some of the most “fuck you got mine” people throughout history (like, a lot of Irish and Italian Americans second generations voted for all sorts of racist douchebags up and down the eastern seaboard in the 1960s-1990s, I think a similar thing happened with German Americans and Polish Americans in the Midwest).
Ftfy, there is no such thing as a good Republican, there was decades of bullshit from them that led us to this point and they’ll be fascist scum after Trump is gone. Anybody who can’t admit that simple truth is either too dumb or too cowardly to be given political power.