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  • And to keep the Harriet Tubman example, legally under society’s laws she wasn’t freeing people. At the time and place she was at she was stealing property from people, relatively expensive property, and in large amounts.

    I have no idea what you’re trying to say here; are you saying that my grandmother, a Dutch Communist, had Antisocial Personality Disorder because she broke laws by helping people escape the Nazi’s? ASPD isn’t ‘person breaks laws like theft or whatever’ it’s that they have no regard for any laws, and:

    Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD) is an adult diagnosis characterized by a persistent pattern of disregard for and violation of others’ rights, beginning in childhood or early adolescence.

    No evidence of this.

    Individuals with ASPD often manipulate others for personal gain, lack empathy, and seldom feel remorse for their actions.

    I feel like actively working while poor to help others for her entire life, at the cost of her own meagre savings and own body, and constantly putting herself in danger, precludes this.

    I have literally no idea why you’re trying to do with this. It’s a nonsensical argument where you’re taking combing correlation and causation.

    If you want to see what it’s actually like for people who have it, this is an excellent video of a woman who is both a diagnosed sociopath as well as a Clinical Psychologist explaining how it is to live with it (in this case Sociopathy and Antisocial Personality Disorder are used interchangeably.)




  • People are falling for Chinese Propaganda, sadly.

    She was a massive thorn in the side of the Soviet Union, and both the CCP and Russia are terrified of her.

    Freeland studied Russian history and literature at Harvard University.[18] During 1988–89, she was an exchange student at the Taras Shevchenko State University of Kyiv in Soviet Ukraine, where she studied Ukrainian, which she is fluent in.[20] While there, she worked with journalist Bill Keller of The New York Times to document the Bykivnia graves, an unmarked mass grave site where the NKVD (the Soviet secret police) disposed of tens of thousands of dissidents.[1] The official Soviet story held that the graves were the result of Nazi atrocities. She translated the stories of locals who had witnessed covered trucks and “puddles of blood in the road” that predated the Nazi invasion, adding evidence that the site was actually the result of Stalinist repression.[1]

    While there she attracted the attention of the KGB, which tagged her with the code name “Frida”, and Soviet newspapers, who attacked her as a foreigner meddling in their internal affairs over her contacts with Ukrainian activists. The KGB surveilled Freeland and tapped her phone calls, and documented the young Canadian activist delivering money, video and audio recording equipment, and a personal computer to contacts in Ukraine. She used a diplomat at the Embassy of Canada in Moscow to send material abroad in a secret diplomatic pouch, worked with foreign journalists on stories about life in the Soviet Union, and organized marches and rallies to attract attention and support from Western countries. On her return from a trip to London in March 1989, Freeland was denied re-entry to the Soviet Union.[21] By the time her activism within Ukraine came to an end, Freeland had become the subject of a high-level case study from the KGB on how much damage a single determined individual could inflict on the Soviet Union; a 2021 Globe and Mail article quoted the report by a former officer of the KGB, which had described Freeland as “a remarkable individual”, “erudite, sociable, persistent, and inventive in achieving her goals”.[21]

    It doesn’t help that we won’t elect a woman though, or basically anyone who isn’t a white man. I say all of this as an NDP voter, she would make me consider an ABC vote.


  • Nah, because that’s just Antisocial Personality Disorder, which basically boils down to trusting your own judgement over society’s.

    I am not here to attack people with Antisocial Personality Disorder, but it’s definitely not just ‘trusting your own judgement over society’s’, it also " is a personality disorder defined by a chronic pattern of behaviour that disregards the rights and well-being of others." The ‘societal judgment’ they’re in conflict with is often the rights and well-being of others. I have an ex with it, and they had an extremely difficult time up until their early 40’s, when they did improve a bit. We’re still not sure if that’s ASPD decreasing over time, or them getting used to dealing with it.

    Again though, this isn’t to attack people with it (who will suffer far more at the hands of others than themselves) but to hand-wave it as ‘trusting your own judgment over society’s’ is… not accurate. From your own link:

    People with antisocial personality disorder tend to purposely make others angry or upset and manipulate or treat others harshly or with cruel indifference.

    Feeling no guilt about harming others.

    Doing dangerous things with no regard for the safety of self or others.

    I say all of this as someone who lived with someone else with ASPD. The one that caused our breakup was “Aggression toward people and animals.” as they hurt me and attempted to hurt our cat in order to hurt me emotionally. This was a reaction caused by PTSD from their truly traumatic childhood, but I’d appreciate it not boiled down to some sort of Chaotic Good interpretation.



  • Apologies, I mentally did percentage of population, not percentage of adults/voters. The Fascists got 29% of voting-aged adults. I will say there is still a massive percentage of the population just watching this happen–voting against it is not enough. in Nazi Germany, saving children from torture was illegal. People are still talking about this like there’s some sort of holiness to the legal system: there isn’t. It’s not a justice system, it’s a highly corruptible legal system. Enough people can rise up and easily stop this, they’re just too scared to do it, because man, one thing I’ve learned since 2016 is just how terrified the average American is most of the time. Then actual things to be afraid of arrive, and they freeze up.



  • So we went from “pelase vote in November” to “some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make”? Holy dystopian nightmare, batman.

    When people didn’t vote against Fascists? Yes.

    And it’s not about what people being ‘willing’ to watch others die, it’s about people standing up and being willing to die for their less powerful neighbours. I’m middle aged, male (AMAB, anyway) and white. I’ll stand between any cops, military, whatever and my fellow citizens. My grandmother (moms side) was in the Dutch resistance and was caught helping people escape the Nazi’s and spend 1941-1945 in a camp; she never fully recovered and converted to Atheism from Catholicism on her death bed, stating ‘no just God would allow what I have seen and lived through.’ My grandfather (dads side) served in the Canadian army from 1939 to 1945, and went to every country we fought in. He never slept in the same bed as my grandmother because he had screaming, wake-up-fighting nightmares from what he saw. He drove a motorcycle, delivering orders, moving supplies, etc. He was driving in a ditch beside a convoy just before dawn, for hours, and the ditch was so bumpy he had to keep slowing down because the motorcycle kept slipping. When the light broke, they were finally able to see, and he realised he was driving over the bodies of women and children from nearby villages. The ‘slipping’ was because the bodies were decaying and the motorcycle couldn’t grip, and he and his partner in the side-car took turns holding the handle bars while the other vomited over the side. They couldn’t turn around because beside the ditch was a cliff, and the convoy was bumper to bumper; they drove for six hours, at maybe 5 km/h, sobbing and vomiting. He never told me the story, he refused to talk about the war with me or my brothers, but in a drunken stupor my father told us my grandfathers war stories.

    We pretend it’s somehow going to be different this time, like this time fascists can be appeased, this time they won’t invade other countries, or take away all of your rights. 30,000 people are already in camps. We all know what is coming next. You can stand aside like the German people did, watch and wring your hands, tell yourselves lies about the ‘clean Wehrmacht,’ yet everyone knows what’s happening. If we don’t stand up to them, we encourage it to happen.



  • The thing is you have to force them to do it illegally, brutally, while people can see it. If you give in, if you agree to things, it’s too easy for them.

    Yes, many people who stand up to them will die. It’s already been allowed to get to that point. Yet if you sit back and give in, it happens so much more quickly, and much more brutally.

    This is especially true if you’re white, or at least not openly a minority. If you’re a middle aged white male, make them go through you. It’s dangerous, you might not make it, so make sure you’re ready. White men standing up to them, constantly, is cognitive dissonance to them. They’ll expect you to always be on your side, and when everyone isn’t, they stumble.

    If people constantly resist them at every angle they will fail. We will lose good people doing it, and we have to.





  • as many many people pointed out, this was poor planning.

    So fucking organize it better then.

    Jesus this American shoulder-shrug-why-do-anything-if-it-isn’t-perfect is so frustrating to watch.

    The thing is if everyone said “fantastic! This will be huge” and the actual protests are underwhelming, well that serves to confirm the false narrative that a very small minority of people are upset.

    But nobody did, they just said “this day this time go protest in your capitol”.

    The optics of pulling off a huge protest in only a week would have been amazing, but just impossible in the real world.

    It was a protest across the entire country, and it can be done again, and again, and again.

    Seriously do you guys even need opponents? You just give up and convince each other to not do anything unless it’s perfect and then sit back and watch your neighbours get put in camps, declaring that you sure don’t agree with those actions.



  • I didn’t realize police stopped shooting black people.

    Dude that’s totally disingenuous and you know it. Protests/strikes aren’t fucking fairy magic. They show people in power what the people in general think of something. The more people do these things the more it’s clear to those in power what will play out and what won’t.

    If americans, say, went out en masse and started protesting, striking, blocking day-to-day life from happening, in response to putting people in concentration camps, capitalists would put a lot of pressure on the fascists to step the fuck back. Then people could, I dunno, realise they can’t passive-resistence their way out of this and started fighting the fascists, this would be over extremely quickly.

    Fascism requires you do one of two things: Help them, or don’t resist them. If you resist it becomes too hard for such a small number of people to succeed against a massive amount of people constantly defying them.