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    Please note that NSFW/NSFL videos must be labeled as such or they will be deleted

    Edit: also keep in mind that initial information in these situations can often be inaccurate. Trusted outlets have conflicting reports about whether a suspect has been detained.

    Edit 2: the campus has officially stated they release the initial subject. Donald Trump has stated Charlie Kirk is dead.

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    Hey, be respectful. This man really put his neck out for his beliefs. He offered himself as tribute to the 2nd amendment, and we should admire his conviction. The proper way to celebrate would be to honour his wishes and show zero empathy. It’s the least we can do for him.

    It’s a rare man that has the courage to rationalize senseless violence in defense of unrestricted access to deadly weapons, and it is even rarer to literally make that the hill you die on. He showed us all by example how you truly live your creed.

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    Someone on reddit found the t shirt, definitely the same kind. It has a flag and eagle with “land of the free, home of the brave”.

    It also is listed in numerous places as a “disabled veterans national foundation” shirt.

    Under the circumstances, could be relevant.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/317271063419

    Update: seems to be a gift for donating to that organization. https://www.dvnf.org/freegift15/

    Of course the usual caveats - don’t assume this person actually donated to them, or even is the actual shooter. But yeah, this all may be a clue why they’re so slow to tell us what they know about the shooter, given that it increasingly looks like it doesn’t support the narrative they led with.

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    There’s a lot of conservatives seemingly gearing up for war saying shit like “The left doesn’t understand what they’ve unleashed.”

    Conservatives get to kill who they want and the moment someone kills one of them they want to murder the left.

    (At least that’s what the bot-like conservative social media looks like.)

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    Busy today and I agree with most of the comments. Zero sympathy for a neo-Nazi who supported the violent MAGAts and wished violence on people who disagreed with him.

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    Its in moments like these that I really appreciate non corporate social media. Everywhere outside the fediverse all I see is people freaking out, acting like this is the first shooting to ever happen in the united states. Even supposed leftists are just like “I don’t agree with the man but no one deserves to get killed over their beliefs”.

    They seem to have forgotten that people get killed over way dumber shit all the time. Personally I care about all the other shootings a lot more than this one. Especially the school shooting in Colorado that happened the same afternoon, which is being mostly ignored.

    There are even lots of comments that condemn anyone making light of his death, or even just making comments about his politics. This dissent they condemn is almost nowhere to be found though, because algorithms bury it all straight to the bottom. The only opinion allowed to be seen is “I’m horrified look at me”.

    Coming back to a place where a real discussion can be had makes me realize just how important this project really is. We need more spaces that we truly own.

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    Photo of the new alleged suspect:

    This guy doesn’t look like an expert marksman, but I guess looks can be deceiving.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/charlie-kirk-shooting-fbi-appeals-tips-manhunt-continues/story?id=125469211

    Cartridges with “transgender and anti-fascist” writing on them were found.

    Oh, were they? That’s super convenient. Almost thoughtful of the shooter to leave that kind of evidence behind but evade capture.

    A lot of people seem to be writing on gun cartridges these days. Kind of a new trend I guess?

    Very confused how we ended up here, but started here:

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    1. They immediately detained people who confronted Charlie at the event (as they were more democratic), but obviously were not the shooter.

    2. The FBI says there is a massive manhunt for the shooter and are asking for any help they can get.

    3. The Right IMMEDIATELY blamed democrats and the “radical left” are calling for our murders and a civil war, without any scrap of evidence to prove their claims.

    4. The shooter was a ghost, some videos show a black figure on a roof 142 yards from the tent, well blended in and in all black. There is also video of the shooter running off the roof immediately after the shooting and got lost in the chaos. It’s been over 18 hours and no suspect has been caught.

    5. Just before this event, Charlie voiced concerns over other right wing conservatives not aligning with his ideals and voicing concern over Israel. He was wearing body amour at this event and the shooter knew it. Extra security was brought in for this event.

    The most logical explanations for this shooting would be:

    1. Another right wing radical taking out a voice they feel is hurting their cause for the movement and to cause chaos in the political spectrum.

    2. A political assassination carried out by Donald Trump and his team to start a war with democrats and start a real war within on anyone that doesn’t agree with them. AKA False Flag.

    It’s just too clean a getaway and too good of a shot for any other explanation considering the angle of the shot, the elevation change, the crowd, and the heightened security.