Did they have to track down leaded gas? Did they just use unleaded? Did they suffer engine knock?

  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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    6 months ago

    We didn’t “switch” to unleaded gas in the 1970s. We added unleaded, required gas stations to offer it, and vehicle manufacturers were prohibited from making new cars that required it.

    Leaded gas was still being offered at some stations well into the 1990s.

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      6 months ago

      Fuck, Germany introduced unleaded fuel only in 1984 and still offered leaded fuel for a long time.

      It was required because of the introduction of catalytic converters, which would get damaged by lead in the fuel.

      When I was at Bundeswehr I was in hospital for some time and got some thorough diagnosis. They asked me if I worked with lead in the past (no), so I seem to have at least some lead levels in my body.

      (Can’t think of a I AM NOT CRAZY pun right now)

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          5 months ago

          Tbh, I have no idea. The whole of Europe was late to this. The first catalytic conveter cars were sold in 1973 in the US and 1985 in Germany.

          Switzerland made them obligatory in 1986, Germany made them obligatory only in 1993 - because that was an EU-wide regulation.

          The only thing I can imagine is the big political influence car makers have in Germany, but that’s just “what sounds reasonable to me”, no proof.

          • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.worldOP
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            5 months ago

            Could it be that gas stations in Europe had no room for another tank? So maybe the governments kept putting it off.

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              5 months ago

              As gas stations have enough room for more expensive “ultimate” versions of fuel, I don’t think that’s the reason. You can frequently get two kinds of Diesel and three kinds of Gas at the pump.

              O. t. o. h…maybe the whole “premium fuel” hype resulted from stations having additional tanks after leaded fuel was phased out.

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    6 months ago

    Gas stations dispensed both, like current gas and diesel.

    You could also buy lead additives, more for an emergency situation than a permit solution.

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    6 months ago

    In about 1980 they stopped selling it at the last local station and my dad and someone did something to the van to make it run on unleaded. It lasted 10 more years.

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    6 months ago

    Leaded gasoline is still around. It’s rarely at the pump, though. Cars that need it can add lead by pouring it in with regular gas.

    Small aircraft mostly use leaded gasoline (AVGAS100LL), as aircraft regulations change at the pace of continental drift. Most of these aircraft would run fine on an unleaded equivalent, and us GA enthusiasts hope for change in this regard.

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    6 months ago

    I had a 1967 mustang while this was going on in the 1980s. For awhile there was one station selling the leaded gas, then you just took your chances, use the unleaded and maybe an additive if the engine knocked, mine didn’t.

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    6 months ago

    From 97-2000 I drove a ‘77 GMC truck that was designed for leaded gas which was not available any more. I just used unleaded. No additives or anything. Maybe the fact it was a V8 meant it could stand being a little out of tune, but I never saw any adverse affects.

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          6 months ago

          Yeah, I knew that some planes still use it. I have had a full year or so now of being horrified by that too.

          I wonder if we’re still going to be selling PFAS 50 years from now too.

          • AA5B@lemmy.world
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            6 months ago

            Only small prop planes, and not all those.

            Almost all commercial aviation are jets or turboprops, using jet fuel. Jet fuel has no lead.