• Ladislawgrowlo@lemy.lol
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    I guess the shooter is camping somewhere in the woods in the wider Utah forests area 🏕

    • hard to find
    • has thrown away the gun already
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    I think the shooter was good, but not a professional. They knew enough to sight in their scope accurately, but not enough to account for bullet drop. Nobody aims for the neck. Odds are he was aiming for the head. If you zero in your sight for 100 yards, the bullet can drop 3 or 4 inches once it gets to 200. And he seems to have disappeared without a trace, so he planned it well. I assume he cleaned up after himself. Odds are they’ll never find him.

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      Even picked up the shell casing. And not bystanders casualities. Not a pro, but certainly not an amateur.

      Where was this guy when Tronald Dump had his speech…

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      Yeah, a lot of people have been going on about “he must have had sniper training” and I’m like no man, 200 years is a pretty normal shot for a hunter. Heck I’ve shot deer at 150 with iron sights.

      I’m inclined to agree with you on the whole probably just a guy who went to the range that fell down a rabbit hole.

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        I saw someone saying he must have been a professional because he “hit a spot smaller than a quarter from 200 yards”… Like, my dude, you are assuming the goal was to hit that exact spot? Every bullet “hits a spot smaller than a quarter” from every range. I agree this wasn’t likely to be the first time this person held or shot a rifle, but he also doesn’t need to be Jason Bourne…

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          big difference from making that shot on a target field, and knowing you are going to kill someone, and have to get away with it. No amateur would have taken one single shot, see the Trump shooting.

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    The culprit was found to be Luigi Mangione. When questioned in his holding cell whether he was in Utah at the time, police noted he became “very nervous, visibly shaking”. A manifesto was found in possession.

    Case closed.

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      I heard they found the gun in Luigi’s backpack. He hasn’t touched the backpack in months, and he’s been locked up all this time, which only proves how diabolical he really is.

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    They won’t catch the shooter because Kash Patel doesn’t want them to.

    If it was a Mossad. mafia or CIA hit, they are probably not even in the country anymore.

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    Meaning they don’t think the person who shot him was black, trans or had mental health issues.

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      Well according to the community forum for my crazy neighborhood it’s definitely a minority trans person who did this.

      Also all mass shootings were done by trans people. Not even joking.

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        Trans people are like sub 1% of the us population. These guys are busy.

        I really don’t understand how you can actually believe something like that. Because of my wild 20’s i happen to know a lot of trans or gay or LGBTQ people in general, or more than the average person. If they were that violent, i would know so many murderers. In reality they are just the nicest people imaginable. I get that they obviously don’t know trans people, probably have never seen one, or if they did, they didn’t even know. But even that fact should make you wonder, no? I was at work and some random guy complained about how many jews live here and why that’s a problem, and i just thought that i don’t even know any jew. I worked for one once, and every now and then i see three or four walking around, but only recognise them because they are orthodox and dress like amish people. I actually had to look it up and in and around the next city, there are only 2000 jews, like what are you on about?

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      WSJ is claiming that the rounds recovered from the weapon used had pro trans / “antifascist” things engraved on the bullets - make of that what you will. Generally WSJ’s reporting is factually accurate but incredibly biased, so there’s that? Fuckin’ hell though this is already such a fucking clusterfuck.

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        If that’s actually the case

        then I think it’s just as likely

        that this was done by fascists

        to justify a “war” against “leftists”.

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          I can’t say I would be surprised for that to be the case.

          I think it’s far more likely for it to have been one decent person who couldn’t take the constant hatred spewed by Kirk. Everyone knows this has been brewing, for it to finally pop on Mr 'Puts His Punchable Face Right Out There And Taunts You For Not Hitting Him" himself isn’t much of a surprise.

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    The assassin will never be caught. Law enforcement couldn’t solve a crossword puzzle if the answer is not handed to them directly.

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      Law enforcement was involved in it. This is clearly a operation to support denying trans folks of owning guns.

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      Law enforcement usually does not care enough to solve a crossword puzzle - but there’s surprisingly few cases that can’t be solved through the careful application of an overwhelmingly massive surveillance apparatus (See: luigi - who could have gotten away with it had they not managed to find the hostel camera footage)

      I’m really hoping this proves not to be the case here, just including the prior as a caution to anyone planning to be gay and do crimes that you can’t actually discount the cops completely. (And from having worked with LE in the past, the absolute #1 way to not get caught is to never ever tell anyone about it. Not your friends, not your mom, lips sealed no matter how cool it was. The number of calls in to their tip lines with people ratting out friend-of-friends is crazy.)

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    I’m really disappointed that the shooter won’t be found.

    Now I don’t know who to project my good vibes and gratitude to.

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      Honestly they might have even less then they did on Luigi, there is no video, at least clear video of the shooter. It was from 200 feet away, if he used a bolt action and was smart he didn’t even cock the gun so the casing stays inside the gun.

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    And the conspiracy theories are are already flowing. Apparently Kirk was convinced Israel was going to assassinate him so he had more security and wore body armor during public appearances recently. Another is that he pissed off the Nazi’s to the point they wanted him gone. Another is that it was a distraction op.

    It’s been a fun read the last few hours. Like “Who Shot Mr. Burns?” so…it was probably a baby.

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          Yeah, but the people controlling him, like some sort of geriatric meat marionette, are that smart. They are the ones putting the Executive Orders in front of this senile bag of burgers and controlling exactly what he says. The only time you get a glimpse behind the scenes is when he nervously flagilates on Live TV and doesn’t have a prompter to guide him along.

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          I’m not saying that it’s true, or even attempting to assert it.

          We are however to the point where this isn’t that crazy of an idea, it’s not out of the realm that these fucks would do this in my mind.

          No proof or evidence either.

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        That implies he can play chess. I do see the logic, I could see someone wanting to sac a pawn. There are a lot of dumb theories about who could be playing Trump, like the Russians, or Thiel or whoever, so I don’t want to speculate who

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        yeah this wouldn’t surprise me at all especially now with the “FBI can’t find the shooter!” shit. My tinfoil hat says distraction op.

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        He was claiming that Epstein was a Mossad agent & demanding that Trump release the Epstein files.

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        Because all conspiracy theories, after you strip away all the overly elaborate chains of communication, the gob smackingly large amount of people who would need to know and be completely silent, and overly complex reasons, always ends up back to the Jews.

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    Led by “it was clearly suicide” Kash Patel. While all evidence slipped away, they had the wrong guy in custody for 6 hours. This was a critical window but a bunch of sycophant gravy seals are not going to figure this out.

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    Looking forward to a disproportionate amount of resources being dedicated to finding this guy’s killer because he was popular.

    America is a joke and its working class is the punchline.

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      Can’t they just pin it on Luigi?
      They did exactly that to him before, why not again?
      Just because he’s in custody?
      Mollycoddles!

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      I don’t know if we can even argue that it’s disproportionate. Anywhere you go on the web, this is all anyone is talking about. It’s not media companies shoving the story down our throats - this is all the working class wants to be talking about right now. With this much public attention the response is going to be proportional to the amount of people who are paying attention to this topic.

      I get that this person isn’t as important to care about compared to many many other people suffering and being killed around the world, but we can’t deny that a huge huge number of people are interested in engaging with this topic and some of them even want the shooter to be found.