Why find them when you can keep a boogie man in your back pocket for when times call for one?
instead of focusing on scrubbing the epstein files.
My man Luigi should’ve waited a couple months for the new administration to come in before doing it. Would’ve 100% gotten away with it too.
Luigi is not guilty. He doesn’t have anything he needs to get away with.
Considering they went after kirk instead of a bigger fish it’s probably somebody deeply personally offended by his minimization of school shootings. That should just narrow it down to all the people who survived a school shooting or lost somebody to one. That’s a short list right?
They found the shooter. Its the entirety of Chicago.
Might need to check out the people that were the victims of anti-LGBTQ+ violence in the last decade or so, should be a pretty short list still
Probably a bad idea that you purged everyone in law enforcement who was good at their job but not a chud.
I guess the shooter is camping somewhere in the woods in the wider Utah forests area 🏕
- hard to find
- has thrown away the gun already
has thrown away the gun already
No way, I’m sure he’s kept the gun with him, along with a hard copy of his manifesto, just like Luigi did! It’s just what you do after you assassinate somebody.
/s
And the fake ID that was allegedly used to check into the hotel room and rent the e-bike or whatever it was.
Why would they need to do that? Just go to a gun show. Conduct a “private purchase” of a Mauser. Kill some vermin. Go back to live your life. The gun probably isn’t connected to that person in any traceable way.
AFAIK some signs of usage are on the gun and left on his hands from the pressure when firing shortly after the shot was fired? Also I thought every gun in the USA is labeled with a code to identify them? I thought because of this they could also sink the gun into some random river or water-body. I guess this would be hard to find.
They have serial numbers, but many states don’t require firearm registration or recording private sales. Back when I lived in the States, the state I lived in required an initial background check if purchasing from a retailer. After that, it could change hands five times with no records.
So basically you are saying Serial Numbers are useless to proof ownership?
Pretty much
If there was a national registry it would be great!
Hey Fred, do we still have that manifesto and gun we used with Mangione? I think we’re gonna need it again.
Luigi Lawyer: Guess Luigi isn’t the killer since the same gun killed someone else while he was in custody!
The culprit was found to be Luigi Mangione. When questioned in his holding cell whether he was in Utah at the time, police noted he became “very nervous, visibly shaking”. A manifesto was found in possession.
Case closed.
I heard they found the gun in Luigi’s backpack. He hasn’t touched the backpack in months, and he’s been locked up all this time, which only proves how diabolical he really is.
I think the shooter was good, but not a professional. They knew enough to sight in their scope accurately, but not enough to account for bullet drop. Nobody aims for the neck. Odds are he was aiming for the head. If you zero in your sight for 100 yards, the bullet can drop 3 or 4 inches once it gets to 200. And he seems to have disappeared without a trace, so he planned it well. I assume he cleaned up after himself. Odds are they’ll never find him.
Him? You mean they/them, right? Cause it was obviously a far-left transgender liberal progressive with blue hair. The whole GOP said so on Twitter. Surely they can’t be using this death to trigger more violence, can they?
Looks like a white male to me. Likely on the right side of the aisle judging by the attire. I think that whole thing about the bullets / guns having messages on them is grade a horse shit.
That’s some dude they found that looks kinda suspicious which is currently their best guess for who the shooter might be, not the confirmed THIS GUY IS THE SHOOTER guy
He was wearing this which implies he’s a disabled vet.
Or was one of the few people who have that custom shirt. Whoops.
Even picked up the shell casing. And not bystanders casualities. Not a pro, but certainly not an amateur.
Where was this guy when Tronald Dump had his speech…
It was a bolt action rifle, was it not?
Well, it could’ve been, but it is really not that important. Worst case it takes aways from his professionality.
Yeah, a lot of people have been going on about “he must have had sniper training” and I’m like no man, 200 yards is a pretty normal shot for a hunter. Heck I’ve shot deer at 150 with iron sights.
I’m inclined to agree with you on the whole probably just a guy who went to the range that fell down a rabbit hole.
I saw someone saying he must have been a professional because he “hit a spot smaller than a quarter from 200 yards”… Like, my dude, you are assuming the goal was to hit that exact spot? Every bullet “hits a spot smaller than a quarter” from every range. I agree this wasn’t likely to be the first time this person held or shot a rifle, but he also doesn’t need to be Jason Bourne…
big difference from making that shot on a target field, and knowing you are going to kill someone, and have to get away with it. No amateur would have taken one single shot, see the Trump shooting.
It’s a bolt action, at a pretty typical hunting range (142 yds is the estimate).
Its not all that outrageous of a shot. A good shot, and a skilled one. But not at all unusually skilled.
It was a bolt action rifle, not an AR like was used in the Trump shooting, you aren’t going to fire 3 rounds before you know what the first one did. And you are assuming an average person in a mental state that both understands and cares about the sanctity of life.
and, why not? Oswald famously managed to fire three deadly accurate (magical, even) bullets from his Carcano 38 within mere 7 seconds.
The shooter could have been aiming center mass, and aimed a bit high? Good thing, too, as Kirk was wearing body armor!
I do agree, not a pro. Just a decent shot with a typical hunting rifle.
Was he? It sure looked like his t shirt draped normally.
He should have played more video games to learn about bullet drop.
I assume they couldn’t see his head because being under the tent and shooting from a upward position so they shot what they could see
Meaning they don’t think the person who shot him was black, trans or had mental health issues.
Well according to the community forum for my crazy neighborhood it’s definitely a minority trans person who did this.
Also all mass shootings were done by trans people. Not even joking.
Trans people are like sub 1% of the us population. These guys are busy.
I really don’t understand how you can actually believe something like that. Because of my wild 20’s i happen to know a lot of trans or gay or LGBTQ people in general, or more than the average person. If they were that violent, i would know so many murderers. In reality they are just the nicest people imaginable. I get that they obviously don’t know trans people, probably have never seen one, or if they did, they didn’t even know. But even that fact should make you wonder, no? I was at work and some random guy complained about how many jews live here and why that’s a problem, and i just thought that i don’t even know any jew. I worked for one once, and every now and then i see three or four walking around, but only recognise them because they are orthodox and dress like amish people. I actually had to look it up and in and around the next city, there are only 2000 jews, like what are you on about?
That’s funny because he was literally answering a question about trans mass shooters when his neck exploded.
WSJ is claiming that the rounds recovered from the weapon used had pro trans / “antifascist” things engraved on the bullets - make of that what you will. Generally WSJ’s reporting is factually accurate but incredibly biased, so there’s that? Fuckin’ hell though this is already such a fucking clusterfuck.
“Sources say” makes this highly dubious.
That’s completely standard in journalism - and the WSJ, despite being an aggressively horrible publication politically and morally, is quite respected for the strict veracity of it’s reporting. I don’t doubt they were told that, by a reputable source. I have no idea if it’s true beyond that however, since the trump admin isn’t exactly overflowing with decent quality human beings.
Absolutely. I am not doubting the WSJ’s reporting, but the “sources” part. The claim seems as convenient and absurd as a Deanna Raybourn novel.
Oh, then I quite apologize for misunderstanding & I totally agree.
quite respected for the strict veracity of it’s reporting.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/selina-cheng-wall-street-journal-1.7269561
Like I said, truly awful morally. Not about to argue against that. But your link doesn’t speak to their adherence to reporting strictly true (if heavily manipulated as to the apparent context and implications) information, which is all I’ve claimed. They fuckin’ suck, but they know that, and they delight in being able to pull a charlie kirk smug face and pull out the recipts when challenged on it.
but they were sources, and they said, and they only said it to the WSJ.
If that’s actually the case
then I think it’s just as likely
that this was done by fascists
to justify a “war” against “leftists”.
I can’t say I would be surprised for that to be the case.
I think it’s far more likely for it to have been one decent person who couldn’t take the constant hatred spewed by Kirk. Everyone knows this has been brewing, for it to finally pop on Mr 'Puts His Punchable Face Right Out There And Taunts You For Not Hitting Him" himself isn’t much of a surprise.
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It was clearly suicide.
His neck just did that
The videos are all AI.
The assassin will never be caught. Law enforcement couldn’t solve a crossword puzzle if the answer is not handed to them directly.
Law enforcement usually does not care enough to solve a crossword puzzle - but there’s surprisingly few cases that can’t be solved through the careful application of an overwhelmingly massive surveillance apparatus (See: luigi - who could have gotten away with it had they not managed to find the hostel camera footage)
I’m really hoping this proves not to be the case here, just including the prior as a caution to anyone planning to be gay and do crimes that you can’t actually discount the cops completely. (And from having worked with LE in the past, the absolute #1 way to not get caught is to never ever tell anyone about it. Not your friends, not your mom, lips sealed no matter how cool it was. The number of calls in to their tip lines with people ratting out friend-of-friends is crazy.)
Law enforcement was involved in it. This is clearly a operation to support denying trans folks of owning guns.
Looking forward to a disproportionate amount of resources being dedicated to finding this guy’s killer because he was popular.
America is a joke and its working class is the punchline.
Can’t they just pin it on Luigi?
They did exactly that to him before, why not again?
Just because he’s in custody?
Mollycoddles!I don’t know if we can even argue that it’s disproportionate. Anywhere you go on the web, this is all anyone is talking about. It’s not media companies shoving the story down our throats - this is all the working class wants to be talking about right now. With this much public attention the response is going to be proportional to the amount of people who are paying attention to this topic.
I get that this person isn’t as important to care about compared to many many other people suffering and being killed around the world, but we can’t deny that a huge huge number of people are interested in engaging with this topic and some of them even want the shooter to be found.
Just waiting for them to find a backpack and a manifesto written with the left hand of a police officer.
And the conspiracy theories are are already flowing. Apparently Kirk was convinced Israel was going to assassinate him so he had more security and wore body armor during public appearances recently. Another is that he pissed off the Nazi’s to the point they wanted him gone. Another is that it was a distraction op.
It’s been a fun read the last few hours. Like “Who Shot Mr. Burns?” so…it was probably a baby.
Trump sacrificing a pawn would not be that crazy.
more like a bishop.
The reason I don’t buy into this theory is cause Trump isn’t that smart.
The other fascists propping him up are.
Yeah, but the people controlling him, like some sort of geriatric meat marionette, are that smart. They are the ones putting the Executive Orders in front of this senile bag of burgers and controlling exactly what he says. The only time you get a glimpse behind the scenes is when he nervously flagilates on Live TV and doesn’t have a prompter to guide him along.
I’m not saying that it’s true, or even attempting to assert it.
We are however to the point where this isn’t that crazy of an idea, it’s not out of the realm that these fucks would do this in my mind.
No proof or evidence either.
I don’t buy it because it places trump as mastermind and not another pawn.
That implies he can play chess. I do see the logic, I could see someone wanting to sac a pawn. There are a lot of dumb theories about who could be playing Trump, like the Russians, or Thiel or whoever, so I don’t want to speculate who
yeah this wouldn’t surprise me at all especially now with the “FBI can’t find the shooter!” shit. My tinfoil hat says distraction op.
why would the Israelis want to kill him?
Because all conspiracy theories, after you strip away all the overly elaborate chains of communication, the gob smackingly large amount of people who would need to know and be completely silent, and overly complex reasons, always ends up back to the Jews.
He was claiming that Epstein was a Mossad agent & demanding that Trump release the Epstein files.
He’
swas Charlie Kirk…?
Led by “it was clearly suicide” Kash Patel. While all evidence slipped away, they had the wrong guy in custody for 6 hours. This was a critical window but a bunch of sycophant gravy seals are not going to figure this out.
I’m willing to bet they’ll still find somebody to pin this on. Somebody whose skin isn’t lily white, and whose name may sound slightly foreign.
A non pale person in Utah?
I’m guessing the exact opposite. I’m guessing the perp will be white bread leaning hard left.
They won’t catch the shooter because Kash Patel doesn’t want them to.
If it was a Mossad. mafia or CIA hit, they are probably not even in the country anymore.
Never say something is malice, when it could be just simple incompetence.
Never give a fascist the benefit of the doubt.
Whoever did this will have been at a party, far away, which dozens of people can confirm.
