The Supreme Court on Tuesday passed up a chance to intervene in the debate over bathrooms for transgender students, rejecting an appeal from an Indiana public school district.

Federal appeals courts are divided over whether school policies enforcing restrictions on which bathrooms transgender students can use violate federal law or the Constitution.

In the case the court rejected without comment, the Chicago-based 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld an order granting transgender boys access to the boys’ bathroom. The appeal came from the Metropolitan School District of Martinsville, about 30 miles (48 kilometers) southwest of Indianapolis.

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    Why would anyone care where people go the bathroom? Where do you think transsexuals have been going all these years? What nonsense.

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      Hey! I appreciate your support, trans rights are human rights!

      In the future, could you please use transgender instead of transexual? The latter is a really dated term and ties a gender and societal issue to sexuality. While they may be closely associated, they’re not the same thing and any little bit helps break that association.

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          You can also edit your comments, it would be preferred if you would change it so that you aren’t using what many of us consider a slur.

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            Would it not be better to leave it as is to teach others? Censoring serves no purpose here and it would prevent people from learning

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              You can edit in a cross out with two tildas ~ surrounding the word and put the correct word next to it if that’s your style. But it’s still somewhat akin to using the n word for some of us. It’s not our word to how we describe ourselves, what we transition for has nothing to do with sex mostly, we can be any sexuality. That old language centers everything on the fact that people see us as sexual fetishes. Transition is about gender, of which sex sometimes is not even a part of it. Asexuality exists too.

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                Not disagreeing about the use of the word, just erasing a teaching moment. Fair enough regarding the editing choice though

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                  And yet it’s still the most upvoted comment, keeping a slur up that hurts many trans people, but sure the teaching moment is more important than being inaccurate and insulting, but keep patting yourself on the back.

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                    It’s the most upvoted comment because many people don’t know it’s a slur. The only way that will change is with calm teaching moments like these.

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            Alternatively you can collapse the comment and you no longer have to see it.

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            While this is true, editing posts to avoid controversy is weird. They wrote what they wrote and noone can change that. Can’t unsay something, too. This also makes this conversation difficult to read for future passerbys.

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        I think this is goofy. More than half my life I’ve heard the word transexual and I certainly don’t think it’s offensive.

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          Because you are old. Also this is to help young people understand better. We will not convince the fossils.

          Retard used to be the nice word back in the day. Language evolves and people suck. It can be difficult to accept both.

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            I prefer transexual if I’m honest though, Transgender feels flimsier. I’m not trying to transcend the idea of what gender you see, I’m trying to transcend the boundaries of biological sex

            That is implicitly more powerful to me.

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          OkCupid has a definition that means someone who wants to align their gender to a biological sex through medical intervention.

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      They have a whole fantasy conspiracy they’ve cooked up where we’re sneaking in to women’s restrooms to do human trafficking and dark web revenge porn and shit.

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        And that’s the typical projection of the conservatives who revealed that they would do that if they had the ability.

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        If a trans man sneaks into the boys room, everybody in the room spontaneously turns gay.

        If a trans woman sneaks into the girls room, it’s a lesbian orgy.

        I don’t make the facts.

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        I’m reading this super awesome book called “before we were trans” That kind of goes over the history of gender non-conformity and transgender identities. It’s fucking amazing

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      I don’t have anything to back it up but I think it’s a large group’s correlation between trans/gay == pedophilia. When I was a kid, my mom(southern baptist republican) didn’t differentiate between gay people and illegal sexual activity like molestation(this was in the 80s). If my mom had been told that a guy that viewed himself as a girl wanted to use the girl’s restroom, she would have immediately decided it was because he wanted to do something terrible to the girls.

      I think the main reason for that is because her God told her gay people were going to hell… It made it easy for her to view them as evil.

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      Worse: they are expending huge amounts of tax dollars over the right to act in a discriminatory way.

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      Yeah, fuck your genitals, show me how big your dookies are! Who’s gonna help me start a petition to build a national weekly poopie scoreboard? USA! USA! USA! USA!

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      Women don’t like going to the bathroom with men.

      They tolerate it on campgrounds, but not places of business that they frequent often.

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        I’m a woman and I don’t care. I’ve been in the bathroom with men before and even had a nice conversation with them. Do I not exist? Who gave you the rights to speak on behalf of all women everywhere?

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        You keep saying this, but you don’t speak for all women. I am a woman who does not care one flying fuck if the other ladies in the restroom were born with a penis, a vagina, or some variation thereof. I care much more about whether they flush & wipe the seat.

        I’m certain you’re not conflating trans with violent, right?? Or sticking up for people who do?

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          Absolutely, but the barrier is not coming from men who don’t want to share restrooms with women.

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            No, actually, as transfem the only time anyone ever confronted me about the bathroom I used was a man before I switched. Evidently I was freaking guys out at the urinals 😅

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          I think it’s more of a safety concern mixed with sexism.

          I’ve come across women that flat-out say they are more afraid of men on average and try to avoid them if possible.

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            One in four women face sexual violence. I get it.

            It sure would be nice if they’d stop to consider how women like me would feel to be forced to be surrounded by men in the men’s restroom.

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      I’m 100% a supporter of trans right to use the bathroom of their gender.

      There is a reason that bathrooms are separated by gender.

      So if you can’t understand why people who don’t believe trans people exist are upset that people are using the wrong restroom, you’re just like the people who can’t understand that trans people exist: it’s a lack of being able to see beyond your own self and understand the position of others. While I strongly disagree with them, their position is not very complicated and easy to understand.

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        I dont think there’s any need to give the benefit of the doubt to these people anymore. You might argue they believe LGBTQ people shouldn’t exist, and I might believe you, but I tend to think their main motivation is just stirring up anger and resentment against the “other side”.

        If people were concerned about privacy or safety, the us would have single user bathrooms or at least stalls that didn’t have 1in gaps around the doors (my 90s high school didn’t have stall doors at all, and in some bathrooms didn’t even have stalls, just a toilet next to the sink in the locker room). The same people aren’t upset about those things, because they don’t actually care about any of this.

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          I dont think there’s any need to give the benefit of the doubt to these people anymore.

          It’s troubling how often I come across the opinion now that one is free to believe the worst of anyone they want.